# Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions!

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [January 3, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42 "2013-01-03T03:04:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5762 "2014-12-10T16:02:34Z")

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> [@Flare](#):
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> I found out that can lower garage doors on zombies and injure them a lot. Been going around and seeing how many zombies I can squish with the garage door at once last night.

Did you try lowering it on yourself?

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**Author:** ![Flare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@Flare](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Flare)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5763 "2014-12-10T16:08:40Z")

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Yes, that’s how I found out.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5764 "2014-12-10T16:14:07Z")

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> [@Flare](#):
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> Yes, that’s how I found out.

+1 Thats how i play cata too xD.

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**Author:** ![Muaddib](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/muaddib/32/392_2.png) [@Muaddib](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Muaddib)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5765 "2014-12-10T16:40:58Z")

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Does anyone know all the colour codes for map notes? I like to map out my science labs in detail.

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**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5766 "2014-12-10T18:26:52Z")

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> [@Valpo](#):
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> [quote=“Flare, post:5763, topic:42”]Yes, that’s how I found out.

+1 Thats how i play cata too xD.[/quote]

test it on Urist Mc Test subject

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**Author:** ![Hardluck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f05b48/32.png) [@Hardluck](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hardluck)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5767 "2014-12-10T19:15:44Z")

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> [@Flare](#):
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> I found out that I can lower garage doors on zombies and injure them a lot. Been going around and seeing how many zombies I can squish with the garage door at once last night.

Since the door also pushes them back, I was thinking about digging a line of spiked pits in front of the door too. That way the unlucky Zeds first get hit by the spikes, then crushed by the door, which also pushes them back on the spikes.

A wire fence on the other side should keep me safeish while I operate the winch.

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**Author:** ![Arek\_PL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b77776/32.png) [@Arek\_PL](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Arek_PL)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5768 "2014-12-10T21:57:43Z")

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> [@Hardluck](#):
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> [quote=“Flare, post:5761, topic:42”]I found out that I can lower garage doors on zombies and injure them a lot. Been going around and seeing how many zombies I can squish with the garage door at once last night.

Since the door also pushes them back, I was thinking about digging a line of spiked pits in front of the door too. That way the unlucky Zeds first get hit by the spikes, then crushed by the door, which also pushes them back on the spikes.

A wire fence on the other side should keep me safeish while I operate the winch.[/quote]but doors can punch inside (i had something like that in firestadion)

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**Author:** ![dovla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@dovla](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dovla)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5769 "2014-12-10T23:07:48Z")

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> [@Flare](#):
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> Yes, that’s how I found out.

Hahahahaha

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**Author:** ![Keyreper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/keyreper/32/163_2.png) [@Keyreper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Keyreper)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5770 "2014-12-11T00:23:50Z")

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> [@Flare](#):
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> I found out that I can lower garage doors on zombies and injure them a lot. Been going around and seeing how many zombies I can squish with the garage door at once last night.

yes, now we have a Dwarven zombie atom smasher

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**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 4:27am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5771 "2014-12-11T04:27:32Z")

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> [@Keyreper](#):
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> yes, now we have a Dwarven zombie atom smasher

Survivor atom smasher  
Materials: steel, kevlar  
This common atom smasher was heavily customized to smash undead atoms.

Though it’s not really an atom smasher. Currently the only real atom smashing happens when you drive a car into deep water.

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**Author:** ![Flare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c0e974/32.png) [@Flare](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Flare)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 4:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5772 "2014-12-11T04:30:52Z")

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> [@Flare](#):
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> Yes, that’s how I found out.

Reading your comments on this, I know this might sound pretty dumb already, but when I did it I had no idea what had happened the first time I did it.

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**Author:** ![Maur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@Maur](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Maur)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 11:00am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5773 "2014-12-11T11:00:21Z")

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> [@Coolthulhu](#):
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> [quote=“Keyreper, post:5770, topic:42”]yes, now we have a Dwarven zombie atom smasher

Survivor atom smasher  
Materials: steel, kevlar  
This common atom smasher was heavily customized to smash undead atoms.

Though it’s not really an atom smasher. Currently the only real atom smashing happens when you drive a car into deep water.[/quote]  
And when you drive a car over something. I often use it for that purpose, to get rid of trash.

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**Author:** ![Commodore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@Commodore](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Commodore)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 11:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5774 "2014-12-11T11:59:10Z")

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Note: I have Per: 6

Alright so on day 4 I’m mopping up zombies for scrap after using a slingshot to be able to craft longbow. Imagine my surprise when I reach archery two and get the message “You’ll need a more accurate gun to keep improving your aim.” What gives with that? I crafted a short bow which that had just unlocked and got the same thing. I’m essentially trapped at archery 2. So I searched on the message and got the block of code below. Is this another case of bullshit hidden breakpoints like the draw strength stat? How do I even make sense of this garbage to know at what point my Per is too garbage or diminishing returns shortchanges my investment?

`   
 // If the dispersion from the weapon is greater than the dispersion from your skill,
    // you can't tell if you need to correct or the gun messed you up, so you can't learn.
    const int weapon_dispersion = used_weapon->curammo->dispersion + used_weapon->dispersion();
    const int player_dispersion = skill_dispersion( used_weapon, false ) +
        ranged_skill_offset( used_weapon->skill() );
    // High perception allows you to pick out details better, low perception interferes.
    const bool train_skill = weapon_dispersion < player_dispersion + rng(0, get_per());
    if( train_skill ) {
        practice( skill_used, 4 + (num_shots / 2));
    } else if( one_in(30) ) {
        add_msg_if_player(m_info, _("You'll need a more accurate gun to keep improving your aim."));`

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**Author:** ![TheFlame52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theflame52/32/247_2.png) [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5775 "2014-12-11T12:29:53Z")

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You have to aim better when you shoot to get more experience.

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**Author:** ![Avgvstvs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avgvstvs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Avgvstvs)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5776 "2014-12-11T14:03:13Z")

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Quick answer:  
Is it possible to get rid of the Marloss Carrier trait? Tried purifier twice, didn’t work.

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**Author:** ![TheFlame52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theflame52/32/247_2.png) [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5777 "2014-12-11T14:05:56Z")

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[quote=“Avgvstvs, post:5776, topic:42”]Quick answer:  
Is it possible to get rid of the Marloss Carrier trait? Tried purifier twice, didn’t work.[/quote]  
Why would you want to?

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**Author:** ![Avgvstvs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avgvstvs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Avgvstvs)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5778 "2014-12-11T14:10:19Z")

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[quote=“TheFlame52, post:5777, topic:42”][quote=“Avgvstvs, post:5776, topic:42”]Quick answer:  
Is it possible to get rid of the Marloss Carrier trait? Tried purifier twice, didn’t work.[/quote]  
Why would you want to?[/quote]  
I’m trying to keep my character as pure as possible.  
Also, annoying message spam.

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**Author:** ![Maur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@Maur](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Maur)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 2:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5779 "2014-12-11T14:22:40Z")

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Where are the Alpha and Elf-a books? I am raiding fourth lab in my fruitless attempt to find one.

On a side note, wearing lots of stuff to keep warm is sort of funny. I imagine my survivor as walking ball of fur by now.

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**Author:** ![Avgvstvs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Avgvstvs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Avgvstvs)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5780 "2014-12-11T14:33:33Z")

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[quote=“Maur, post:5779, topic:42”]Where are the Alpha and Elf-a books? I am raiding fourth lab in my fruitless attempt to find one.

On a side note, wearing lots of stuff to keep warm is sort of funny. I imagine my survivor as walking ball of fur by now.[/quote]

Elf-a is found in the standpipe maintenance log. It says it’s “Just for fun”, but is actually the only way to learn Elf-a mutagens.

I think Alpha is one of the proposals, but i’m not 100% sure.

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**Author:** ![TheFlame52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theflame52/32/247_2.png) [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5781 "2014-12-11T15:19:12Z")

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[quote=“Avgvstvs, post:5778, topic:42”]I’m trying to keep my character as pure as possible.  
Also, annoying message spam.[/quote]  
It’s too late for the spam. You’re addicted now and there’s no turning back AFAIK.

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