# Tips, Tricks, and Newb Questions! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Bunker\ **Created:** [January 3, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42 "2013-01-03T03:04:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 277

**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5522 "2014-11-28T00:46:59Z")

> [@fish have fingers now?](#): > > So I downloaded the latest experimental a couple of days ago and got a good character going. However, the Recoil on any weapon I try to use is absurd, 285 on a Glock 19, 795 on a RM228 short shotgun, 450 on an AR-15 and so on. The Recoil indicator on the HUD is always red, no matter what. Dispersion is quite high too. I have 3 in marksman skills, my arm encumbrance is at 1. Any reason for this? Hidden disease or the like? Dispersion and recoil got multiplied by 15 when ranged system changed (aiming update). All guns and bows with high damage have additional 60 dispersion added for each point of damage. ---

**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 6:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5523 "2014-11-28T06:16:52Z")

Just how do you get acurized reflec recurve bows ---

**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5524 "2014-11-28T06:25:45Z")

The Bowyers Friend is a book with a recipe for that. ---

**Author:** ![qurvax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecc23a/32.png) [@qurvax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/qurvax)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 11:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5525 "2014-11-28T11:11:23Z")

> [@Hibou](#): > > I recommend just staying away from those types of zombies. They are likely to cause dwarf fortress tier amounts of fun. In this game I’m always assuming exactly that with anything not seen before 🙂 Strange thing is, dancers didn’t actually attack me. So i just gtfo with all the loot. Plus every other normal and special Z in the area just vanished somehow. ---

**Author:** ![Caconym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aca169/32.png) [@Caconym](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Caconym)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 11:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5526 "2014-11-28T11:50:44Z")

I noticed in the wiki a thing called fb51 optical cloak, are they still in game? Where do they spawn? ---

**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5527 "2014-11-28T11:53:05Z")

They are still in game. Where they spawn? i dunno … i always find 1 or 2 but i never use these things cause i consider them cheaty and thus forget where i found em. ---

**Author:** ![Arek\_PL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b77776/32.png) [@Arek\_PL](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Arek_PL)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5528 "2014-11-28T12:35:41Z")

not to mention how they are unefective if it come to power use (try cloak cbm its far better) ---

**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 12:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5529 "2014-11-28T12:43:15Z")

cloak cbm is even cheatier. ---

**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5530 "2014-11-28T14:09:27Z")

Does superalloy conduct electricity ---

**Author:** ![KroganElite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@KroganElite](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KroganElite)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5531 "2014-11-28T17:23:53Z")

> [@Caconym](#): > > I noticed in the wiki a thing called fb51 optical cloak, are they still in game? Where do they spawn? Yes, they’re still in game. I usually find them on military corpses or a military crash site. ---

**Author:** ![TheFlame52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theflame52/32/247_2.png) [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5532 "2014-11-28T18:03:56Z")

> [@KroganElite](#): > > [quote=“Caconym, post:5526, topic:42”]I noticed in the wiki a thing called fb51 optical cloak, are they still in game? Where do they spawn? Yes, they’re still in game. I usually find them on military corpses or a military crash site.[/quote] I’ve usually found them by science corpses. They’re really rare. ---

**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5533 "2014-11-28T18:19:03Z")

> [@TheFlame52](#): > > [quote=“KroganElite, post:5531, topic:42”][quote=“Caconym, post:5526, topic:42”]I noticed in the wiki a thing called fb51 optical cloak, are they still in game? Where do they spawn? Yes, they’re still in game. I usually find them on military corpses or a military crash site.[/quote] I’ve usually found them by science corpses. They’re really rare.[/quote] I’ve only found… about 10 in all my years of playing. ---

**Author:** ![Cactus\_McCoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cactus\_McCoy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cactus_McCoy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5534 "2014-11-28T20:06:05Z")

How the Hell am I suppose to chop down trees? I have an Axe but whenever I press A to use it, I just go to the inventory screen and can’t cut down the tree. I have also just tried smashing the tree with the axe equipped but to no success. Can anyone tell me what I’m doing wrong? ---

**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5535 "2014-11-28T20:09:05Z")

press \* it will view the construction menu. use the chop down tree comand there. ---

**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5536 "2014-11-28T20:11:01Z")

> [@Cactus McCoy](#): > > How the Hell am I suppose to chop down trees? I have an Axe but whenever I press A to use it, I just go to the inventory screen and can’t cut down the tree. I have also just tried smashing the tree with the axe equipped but to no success. Can anyone tell me what I’m doing wrong? Construction menu. [quote=“qurvax, post:5519, topic:42”]Just got back into CDDA after a couple of months 🙂 So, how do i kill Z-dancers? Feed one two 9mm from a carabine, two shoots from a shotgun and finally tried to cut it up with my catana. The thing seemingly hadn’t noticed any of my hard work, and stayed at “lightly injured” no matter what.[/quote] Little late here, but kill the Thriller and they should become kill-able. If the Thriller is already dead just debug them out of existence, the are only still around due to a bug. ---

**Author:** ![Newper5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Newper5](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Newper5)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5537 "2014-11-28T20:23:46Z")

[quote=“i2amroy, post:5536, topic:42”][quote=“qurvax, post:5519, topic:42”]Just got back into CDDA after a couple of months 🙂 So, how do i kill Z-dancers? Feed one two 9mm from a carabine, two shoots from a shotgun and finally tried to cut it up with my catana. The thing seemingly hadn’t noticed any of my hard work, and stayed at “lightly injured” no matter what.[/quote] Little late here, but kill the Thriller and they should become kill-able. If the Thriller is already dead just debug them out of existence, the are only still around due to a bug.[/quote] When you say they should become kill-able, do you mean that they turn into hulks? Or has that infuriating little surprise been removed? ---

**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5538 "2014-11-28T20:24:34Z")

If you kill the Thriller, the dancers will turn into hulks. You can’t kill the dancers before killing the thriller. ---

**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5539 "2014-11-28T20:26:18Z")

do they not have like 10k hp? a direct hit with a mininuke should be deadly. ---

**Author:** ![qurvax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecc23a/32.png) [@qurvax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/qurvax)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5540 "2014-11-28T20:32:41Z")

so hulks… around 10 of them at once. should be fun. need an automatic shotgun tho. ---

**Author:** ![Alasnuyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Alasnuyo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Alasnuyo)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42/5541 "2014-11-28T20:38:46Z")

And the dancers also regenerate. I fled from that encounter seasons ago. When my Iron Dragon is installed with all 24 NX-17 pulse turrets, I’ll return to the tiny hamlet where they should still be at and unleash the dakka. Only one question. Are the dancers vulnerable to electricity the same way shoggoths are? I desire to slay an unmorphed Z-dancer, if possible. [Previous page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42.md?page=276) [Next page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/tips-tricks-and-newb-questions/42.md?page=278)