# Throwing martial arts

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**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Tags:** trainwreck\
**Created:** [June 23, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-martial-arts/15757 "2018-06-23T06:51:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-martial-arts/15757/15 "2018-06-23T22:58:56Z")

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> [@Throwing debate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-debate/15729/34):
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> Looking at stone slinging IRL, I found that the untrained and novices are terrible at it, often being completely incapable of discovering proper form by intuition or trial-and-error.

This is a fairly reasonable assertion, but this:

> [@Throwing debate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-debate/15729/34):
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> It left me believing that skilled throwing should be bound to professions and skill books

Does not follow, throwing and slinging are not the same thing. Throwing is a very intuitive action that can be made very effective through plain repitition.  
There are a number of variations on this, tumbling thrown weapons might require training, other throwing tools such as an atlatl might require training, etc, but I haven’t seen a rationale for restricting throwing in general.

> [@Throwing debate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-debate/15729/36):
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> For sake of argument, ignore that he’s using a sling.

That’s missing the point that slinging and throwing are different, a natural overhand throw is quite close to being optimal, and it can simply be tuned with practice.

I’m extremely against the concept of training being necessary for throwing to be effective.

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