# Throwing and Martial Arts

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-and-martial-arts/1367>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [May 22, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-and-martial-arts/1367 "2013-05-22T00:04:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nappist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nappist](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nappist)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/throwing-and-martial-arts/1367/1 "2013-05-22T00:04:43Z")

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You can throw martial arts. It doesn’t actually leave your hand and does 0 damage, but you can still headshot with it and train throwing.

Even better, you can target yourself, training both throwing AND dodge at no risk to yourself.

Shadow boxing at a whole new level, or ventriloquism karate, as some people have stated.

edit:self-throwing for +dodge doesn’t appear to work in .5, it ends up in your inventory instead