Thermos

Blackopsman9999 · 2014-05-12T23:33:25.000Z

I doubt a normal person could make one though… Don’t they use vacuums… which would take more than some more metal?

Hibou · 2014-05-13T00:09:00.000Z

Vacuums or high pressure gas, I believe.

Straume21 · 2014-05-13T03:43:56.000Z

If you’re trying to be really realistic, you could reasonably make one by using a vacutainer or the components of one.

Pthalocy · 2014-05-13T06:49:59.000Z

Even if it was just double-walled with a space inbetween for insulation, it’d be an improvement. I’ve got travelmugs like that with simple air in between, they don’t make things warm FOREVER but they do extend said temp’s duration. The vacutainer idea would also work for me. I’d considered them a likely candidate for ‘better to find than make’ item anyhow.

KA101 · 2014-05-13T22:15:40.000Z

Pthalocy:

Even if it was just double-walled with a space inbetween for insulation, it’d be an improvement. I’ve got travelmugs like that with simple air in between, they don’t make things warm FOREVER but they do extend said temp’s duration. The vacutainer idea would also work for me. I’d considered them a likely candidate for ‘better to find than make’ item anyhow.

Concur.

kevin.granade · 2014-05-14T01:37:03.000Z

Yep, find not make. We need a few things still for pre cataclysm exclusives

kilozombie · 2014-05-14T15:37:31.000Z

If you were to make this, it’d require a very high fabrication skill, a forge, and a good deal of metal, and even then it’d be a “forged thermos” not as effective as one you’d find in a coffee shop or office (both of which make good places to put this item, BTW)

Cat09 · 2014-05-19T21:55:24.000Z

it wouldn’t be that hard to make a low-quality thermos with some basic insulation and a large can to go with your plastic bottle.

Pthalocy · 2014-05-19T22:30:38.000Z

I’ve made one! It mostly involved cutting up a winter boot with that silver lining inside the boot insulationfluff, a mug with a lid, and a bunch of duct tape. It did not work anywhere near as well as hoped, though for the grade 7 science experiment that it was, it did help a little. Just a little.

Mostly, we had to contend with it smelling like boot in addition to coffee.

Inquisitor_Dust · 2014-05-20T00:59:02.000Z

I’d be totally down for this.
It’s the little thing, y’know?

RAM · 2014-05-20T01:32:52.000Z

Making a pressure valve shouldn’t be much harder than making any other precision machinery. Just need something that gets pulled towards the low pressure inside the container and forms a seal. Once you have that you just need a bellows to create low pressure at the valve outside of the container and you should be able to get moderately close to a vacuum. I could see something like that as a high-end craft. On the other hand, an internal combustion engine is not much more complex and those are not craftable… A simple insulated heat-proof bottle should be pretty easy. I am not familiar with nomex but some sort of foam or air layer between two sheets should extend heated time. The problem with air is convection… Although heat-proof containers are also an issue. Putting boiling tea in a plastic bottle is not exactly a perfect plan. I mean, you will probably get away with it, but still…

Pthalocy · 2014-05-20T02:58:02.000Z

Despite all the arguments in favour of a craftable thermos, I really do like Kevin’s point that we need more find-only items. Not sure if this is the best contender but it is a feeling I have.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-05-20T03:01:41.000Z

I think it should only be find-able.

Zaweri_Runewright · 2014-05-20T05:12:41.000Z

I have made a ghetto thermos. It’s not that hard. “Makeshift thermos” would be a good name for it.

kevin.granade · 2014-05-20T05:21:45.000Z

You make a good point, there’s room for a makeshift thermos, and a found thermos that works much better.

Inquisitor_Dust · 2014-05-20T05:34:34.000Z

Pthalocy:

Despite all the arguments in favour of a craftable thermos, I really do like Kevin’s point that we need more find-only items. Not sure if this is the best contender but it is a feeling I have.

I’m totally okay with more find only items as I don’t really get into crafting much when I play. The thermos definitely sounds like something you wouldn’t be crafting after the apocalypse.

kilozombie · 2014-05-20T15:27:15.000Z

So…

A makeshift thermos made with a coffee mug, glass cup, etc. as well as something like a boot or lots of rag to insulate and some scrap metal and a welder??
A found thermos that is quite incredibly rare but works to keep liquids boiling/fresh for a long time.

Khrysanth · 2014-05-20T15:47:07.000Z

A makeshift thermos should work about as well as your average gas station travel mug. Sure, it’ll keep things warm longer, but after a couple hours your coffee is still going to be barely warm.

vache · 2014-05-20T16:26:07.000Z

I think for the distinction between the two to mean anything, the uses for a thermos should be more pronounced to begin with. Right now it sounds like a way to keep a morale boost from hot drinks for longer. What if ice labs made liquids in your inventory freeze, and by keeping them in a thermos you can have access to them for longer. Same thing should apply for the dead of winter. Most buildings won’t have any sort of heating except for whatever fire pit you may have, so things should freeze if not protected.

Zireael · 2014-05-20T18:15:01.000Z

Yeah, I think we could have both.