# The game doesn't recognize "\<", and "\>"

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [July 12, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185 "2013-07-12T12:12:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mate/32/73_2.png) [@Mate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mate)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/1 "2013-07-12T12:12:31Z")

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I can’t even start a new game.

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 12:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/2 "2013-07-12T12:21:13Z")

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Is this 0.6 Samedi or experimental build? If experimental, from which day?

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**Author:** ![prytoclasm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@prytoclasm](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/prytoclasm)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/3 "2013-07-12T12:39:39Z")

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1st: CAPSLOCK active by accident?  
2nd: What language is your system language + keyboard?  
3rd: You can also use PageUp and PageDown to move through the pages and for ingame you can remap the keys for stairs up/down.

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**Author:** ![Mate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mate/32/73_2.png) [@Mate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mate)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 1:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/4 "2013-07-12T13:02:12Z")

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I’ve just downloaded the latest build. My keyboard is Hungarian, it worked before.

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**Author:** ![Sonny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@Sonny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sonny)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/5 "2013-07-12T14:25:29Z")

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I have czech keyboard and have to shift+alt to english setting every time I start Cata. It should solve your trouble too.

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**Author:** ![Mate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mate/32/73_2.png) [@Mate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mate)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/6 "2013-07-12T17:13:40Z")

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Tried that, didn’t work either.

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**Author:** ![Sonny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@Sonny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sonny)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/7 "2013-07-12T17:40:52Z")

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Try changing the setting with mouse then… I’m helpless, sorry man.

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**Author:** ![Tarkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Tarkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tarkin)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/8 "2013-07-13T13:41:10Z")

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I had the same problem with the “@” in the build from 2 days ago and from yesterday. Changed it in the keymap file to another key and it work but not the “@”. I have a french keyboard so i need to use “alt.car.+2” for “@”, maybe that is where the problem come from.

You can also use the page up and down for \<\>.

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**Author:** ![utunnels](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/utunnels/32/81_2.png) [@utunnels](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/utunnels)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/9 "2013-07-13T15:33:39Z")

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I see.  
It seems I tried to simulated alt+number input so it blocked other alt key combinations.

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**Author:** ![Zaweri\_Runewright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/5e9695/32.png) [@Zaweri\_Runewright](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zaweri_Runewright)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/10 "2013-07-13T15:39:19Z")

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The game does not recognize “Alt Gr + key” combinations of the Finnish keyboard, Which are @£$€{[]}|€~… This is really frustrating, please fix this ASAP…

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**Author:** ![utunnels](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/utunnels/32/81_2.png) [@utunnels](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/utunnels)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/11 "2013-07-13T15:42:45Z")

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Which alt is required for those input?  
Perhaps right alt can be used to input alt+number while left alt is still functioning.

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**Author:** ![Mate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mate/32/73_2.png) [@Mate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mate)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/12 "2013-07-13T16:30:53Z")

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Maybe that’s it, AltGr isn’t recognized for some reason. Can someone take a look at that?

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/13 "2013-07-14T04:13:11Z")

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> [@utunnels](#):
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> Perhaps right alt can be used to input alt+number while left alt is still functioning.

This exact thing was actually merged earlier today IIRC.

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**Author:** ![Mate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mate/32/73_2.png) [@Mate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mate)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/14 "2013-07-14T17:30:45Z")

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> [@i2amroy](#):
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> [quote=“utunnels, post:11, topic:2185”]Perhaps right alt can be used to input alt+number while left alt is still functioning.

This exact thing was actually merged earlier today IIRC.[/quote]  
Still doesn’t seem to work.

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**Author:** ![utunnels](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/utunnels/32/81_2.png) [@utunnels](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/utunnels)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/15 "2013-07-15T00:12:12Z")

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> [@i2amroy](#):
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> [quote=“utunnels, post:11, topic:2185”]Perhaps right alt can be used to input alt+number while left alt is still functioning.

This exact thing was actually merged earlier today IIRC.[/quote]

I don’t think so.

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/2031>

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Edit\*  
Never mind, kevin made it already.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/16 "2013-07-16T00:50:38Z")

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NOW it’s definitely merged, can you check that it works now? Also, is having the left vs right Alt distinction acceptable, or does it need to be more configurable?

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**Author:** ![Mate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mate/32/73_2.png) [@Mate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mate)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 7:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/17 "2013-07-16T07:40:07Z")

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Still doesn’t seem to work. Also, I think the best is just to make it accept everything it would accept in notepad.

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**Author:** ![utunnels](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/utunnels/32/81_2.png) [@utunnels](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/utunnels)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/18 "2013-07-16T07:52:45Z")

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Did SDL version once support such input? Maybe it was broken from certain point.

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**Author:** ![utunnels](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/utunnels/32/81_2.png) [@utunnels](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/utunnels)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 8:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/19 "2013-07-16T08:01:31Z")

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Ah, I think I know the problem now.

> **[German keyboard layout](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_keyboard_layout)**
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> The German keyboard layout is a QWERTZ keyboard layout commonly used in Austria and Germany. It is based on one defined in a former edition (October 1988) of the German standard DIN 2137-2. The current edition DIN 2137-1:2012-06 standardizes it as the first (basic) one of three layouts, calling it "T1" (Tastaturbelegung 1, "keyboard layout 1"). The German layout differs from the English (US and UK) layouts in four major ways:

Actually you needs right alt to input those characters, I thought Alt ang Gr are two different keys.

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**Author:** ![Mate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mate/32/73_2.png) [@Mate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mate)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 8:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/the-game-doesnt-recognize-and/2185/20 "2013-07-16T08:13:21Z")

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It used to work in the SDL version, for me “\<” is Alt Gr+Í and “\>” is Alt Gr+Y.

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