Tasks Per Item/Item Sources

pingpong · 2013-04-13T15:28:00.000Z

Thanks for these suggestions… there should probably be more details in the help menu or whatever, even something like “apply everything” or “if you’re not applying something, you’re meleeing with it” (which would have saved some frustration from whacking crates to death).

I almost feel really spoiled by some of these, but it’s like, I was wondering how to get leather patches and stuff, I assumed I needed a higher craft level, not to just apply a knife to the friggin pelts.

Benedict · 2013-04-13T17:19:23.000Z

If you find a steel compactor behind a hardware store, you can use it to turn a variety of metal items into chunks/lumps of steel (mostly the smaller one, chunks)

I’ve not yet worked out the “recipes” involved, and there seems to be a degree of randomness to it, but you can 100% reliably turn 1 scrap metal into 1 chunk of steel, and 1 pipe into 1 chunk of steel.

I’ve managed to get lumps out by putting loads of items in all together, but I don’t know what the specifics are. All I know is that when I put in a LOT of scrap metal, I got out a LOT of chunks, and a few lumps.

Also, putting in two scraps still only results in one chunk. There’s no economies of scale in the steel compactor business.

Sirian · 2013-04-14T10:12:02.000Z

[quote=“Benedict, post:9, topic:783”]If you find a steel compactor behind a hardware store, you can use it to turn a variety of metal items into chunks/lumps of steel (mostly the smaller one, chunks)

I’ve not yet worked out the “recipes” involved, and there seems to be a degree of randomness to it, but you can 100% reliably turn 1 scrap metal into 1 chunk of steel, and 1 pipe into 1 chunk of steel.

I’ve managed to get lumps out by putting loads of items in all together, but I don’t know what the specifics are. All I know is that when I put in a LOT of scrap metal, I got out a LOT of chunks, and a few lumps.

Also, putting in two scraps still only results in one chunk. There’s no economies of scale in the steel compactor business.[/quote]

It seems that you need 10 scraps to make a lump and 3 scraps to make a chunk. But I guess the recycler code is imperfect, because according to that logic you shouldn’t get a chunk from a single scrap. Also, it’s not limited to scraps, it’s just checking if the item is made of steel. I’m guessing that you could therefore turn a lump into a chunk, or even 10 lumps into 1 lump, so that’s a bit weird. Maybe I’m missing something but I think that it could use some rewriting.

Benedict · 2013-04-14T15:02:18.000Z

Yep. There’s lots of stuff like turning two lumps into one lump, etc.

Likewise, as you said, you can turn any item made of steel into lumps/chunks. Pipes, for example, and presumably anything else.

If the code gets a rewrite, it’d be cool to make it more consistent. Micromanaging one piece of scrap at a time is very boring

Miloch · 2013-04-22T07:27:37.000Z

Added.

Iosyn · 2013-04-22T20:15:43.000Z

to be honest I wouldn’t expect a crowbar to take apart furniture when we have hammers and screwdrivers nearby.

As for crowbars opening windows, I’m with you. Most household windows should be pryable.
Also goddamn. The steel compactor actually has a use? D:

TurningBreeze · 2013-04-22T23:59:59.000Z

Iosyn:

Most household windows should be pryable.

Buh? You mean for you they aren’t…? I pry household windows open with a crowbar all the time… I must not be understanding something here.

Miloch · 2013-04-23T00:24:04.000Z

Oy! Oy! You get them to open?

TurningBreeze · 2013-04-23T00:42:48.000Z

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Admittedly I’ve smashed the window instead a couple of times, but I’ve always just assumed that I derped and hit the wrong key.

Morrigi · 2013-04-23T00:58:09.000Z

Butchering half worms also nets a small amount of leather.

Nopkar · 2013-04-23T05:16:48.000Z

crowbars can pry windows, chance to smash open instead, look out and be mindful.

Ferodaktyl · 2013-04-23T05:48:04.000Z

Broken windows are the best source of fresh food - all small animals are fatally attracted to them, piling around them and waiting to be butchered.
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Endovior · 2013-04-23T08:16:39.000Z

Personally, I tend to prefer pit traps for that purpose… just dig a moat around your base, and fish out corpses whenever you get hungry. After all, you probably don’t want broken-open windows in your base itself, and you probably want your food source close to home.

Miloch · 2013-04-23T08:24:44.000Z

I usually live in a residential area. I’m going to end up boarding up all the windows in my house, so it doesn’t bother me. I break all the windows in the surrounding houses. This nets me two fold. The furry lemmings will run onto the windows and die (yum!). Also, this will give me a lot of heavy sticks and sheets for raw materials. Finding a sewing kit, practicing until I have a decent skill, cut up some sheets, and make myself a pair of backpacks pretty easily.

Ferodaktyl · 2013-04-23T08:40:04.000Z

with static spawn there is no point in boarding the windows, once cleaned, the area stays clean. And with dynamic spawn, i’d rather have more than 1 way to run if needed

Nopkar · 2013-04-23T08:50:25.000Z

‘stays cleared’ is relative. I’ve left a door opened and awakened to a spider munching on my face. zombies may not spawn but by damn the spiders do!

Miloch · 2013-04-29T23:08:48.000Z

Anyone have any other good sources for sought after items?

KA101 · 2013-04-30T01:10:36.000Z

Whatcha need?

Miloch · 2013-04-30T03:47:02.000Z

I don’t need anything specific, but I’m looking for good sources of various items. Like the ability to get steel plates from disassembling slides.

KA101 · 2013-04-30T03:59:56.000Z

They changed that in the latest git version. Officially Steel Plate was a bug and it’s supposed to be Sheet Metal instead.

https://github.com/TheDarklingWolf/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/540