Taking suggestions for new diseases

[TheGrifter]

Necroa virus, like out of Plague Inc.

Sure, the goo does awful things to a person, but let’s say you were to extract the DNA of the virus, transpolimiferate it, dunk it in a well, and do some voodoo over it, you could probably turn it into an effective bioweapon.

Something that zombifies YOU. The player character. You can get bitten, but you never exhibit any traditional symptoms. Maybe you start experiencing necrosis, or tissue sloughs off…

Maybe you start experiencing dementia. Itchy. Tasty.

[Leper]

[quote=“Leper, post:31, topic:6038”][quote=“Khrysanth, post:23, topic:6038”]“With the new Black and Decker Home Lobotomy CBM you’ll never have to worry about built up pressure or nuisances like independent thought again!”

I believe that the built up pressure thing RAM was referring to was actually trepanning. More or less disturbing than a lobotomy? I vote less (far, far less), but you decide after reading this person’s description of the sensation:
“After some time there was an ominous sounding schlurp and the sound of bubbling. I drew the trepan out and the gurgling continued. It sounded like air bubbles running under the skull as they were pressed out. I looked at the trepan and there was a bit of bone in it. At last!”[/quote]

Oh, I know it was trepanning. But that just didn’t make for an interesting CBM name.[/quote]
I don’t know, the idea of a drill that emerges from a hole in the side of your head that proceeds to bore a hole directly back into your head kind of amuses me.

In my head it’s kind of Inspector Gadget-esque.
"Go-go-gadget cranial drill!“
VVVVRRRRRRRRRRRR
"AAAAARRGHHHHH WHAT PURPOSE DOES THIS EVEN SERVE?!”

[bahihs]

How simpler things like botulism toxin? With all the canned food, this should be a real danger. Or mutualistic parasites (a la futurama) that have some sort of drawback (increased appetite, sleep apnea, occasional hallucinations) but provide stat boosts. Speaking of CBMs, what about infections from improper installation? Metabolic diseases are also interesting, diabetes (which would require insulin injections in severe cases, to moderation of sugar intake in less severe ones).

Also vomiting should be implemented, along with anti-emetics. PTSD and other psychological disorders make sense in the apocalyptic context, random hallucinations, bad dreams that prevent sleep etc.

[RAM]

Post traumatic stress disorder dreams that wake you up would seem practical. Botulisms should only be a problem with damaged cans or stuff which you can yourself, badly. So long as the stuff was properly sealed and sterilised then there shouldn’t be much issue with infection. But if for some reason the can is not sealed(damage would do this) or sterilised(Ignorance would be the big one or just plain bad when it went in(currently recipes do not accept bad food, but if spoilage were to be hidden somehow…
A parasite that increases any of the basic stats seems a little fantastic. I mean, the setting is fantastic, so sure, maybe goo can randomly provide random stat boosts as it prepares you for the afterlife, but parasites would be more likely to provide increased health. Benign parasites are capable of repelling dangerous parasites and could make you resistant to failures spawned from your own biology, but actually modifying the body’s performance directly seems dubious…

P.T.S.D. could be fun if a critter reduced you to low health, or chased you for a long time, or performed some impressive feat of vandalism to your property, and then you dream about it and hallucinate them and have panic attacks when you see them… There would need to be treatments of course. Any rapid injection of morale would likely ease the symptoms, and there should probably be some means of self-psychotherapy. Maybe sustained positive morale over a long period could reduce the severity of the condition…

[vache]

The big problem with diseases is that, in order to be realistic, they have two ways of being handled: take drugs, wait it out. Drugs force you to have a certain thing, and it quickly becomes “find this thing, or die”, which can be a major annoyance given the random nature of things, or it becomes “oh this bullshit, okay let’s take that thing I’ve been hoarding for the past 3 weeks just in case”, and it becomes a minor annoyance that hardly affects gameplay. Waiting it out is another annoyance: either the disease is debilitating enough that you’re barely able to fight, so you’re forced to have some amount of downtime (a major annoyance), or it’s just a minor inconvenience while you go about the game.

[Slax]

Give an ol’ miner the black lung any ol’ day, baby. cough

[KA101]

[quote=“RAM, post:36, topic:6038”]Post traumatic stress disorder dreams that wake you up would seem practical. Botulisms should only be a problem with damaged cans or stuff which you can yourself, badly. So long as the stuff was properly sealed and sterilised then there shouldn’t be much issue with infection. But if for some reason the can is not sealed(damage would do this) or sterilised(Ignorance would be the big one or just plain bad when it went in(currently recipes do not accept bad food, but if spoilage were to be hidden somehow…
A parasite that increases any of the basic stats seems a little fantastic. I mean, the setting is fantastic, so sure, maybe goo can randomly provide random stat boosts as it prepares you for the afterlife, but parasites would be more likely to provide increased health. Benign parasites are capable of repelling dangerous parasites and could make you resistant to failures spawned from your own biology, but actually modifying the body’s performance directly seems dubious…

P.T.S.D. could be fun if a critter reduced you to low health, or chased you for a long time, or performed some impressive feat of vandalism to your property, and then you dream about it and hallucinate them and have panic attacks when you see them… There would need to be treatments of course. Any rapid injection of morale would likely ease the symptoms, and there should probably be some means of self-psychotherapy. Maybe sustained positive morale over a long period could reduce the severity of the condition…[/quote]

PTSD really isn’t much fun.

[RAM]

Mildly interesting read, sounds a lot like myself in many respects, but completely irrelevant to fun. I am pretty sure that the vast majority of things in C.:D.D.A. would be less than fun in reality. When will we be implementing the chemical analysis of urine samples by master cooks to determine the health of the donor?

[kevin.granade]

The big problem with diseases is that, in order to be realistic, they have two ways of being handled: take drugs, wait it out. Drugs force you to have a certain thing, and it quickly becomes “find this thing, or die”, which can be a major annoyance given the random nature of things, or it becomes “oh this bullshit, okay let’s take that thing I’ve been hoarding for the past 3 weeks just in case”, and it becomes a minor annoyance that hardly affects gameplay. Waiting it out is another annoyance: either the disease is debilitating enough that you’re barely able to fight, so you’re forced to have some amount of downtime (a major annoyance), or it’s just a minor inconvenience while you go about the game.

I could absolutely see gating realistic diseases behind a “realistic diseases” mod, possibly even off by default, but I also think there’s sufficient interest to make it worthwhile. (yea, yea, I need to make diseases moddable, I know)

[Womble]

In general, I think adding some irritants rather than killers is a good idea. Actually, a mix of irritants and killers is ideal: getting a stye is annoying, but are you prepared to take your antibiotics to clear it up, knowing that more serious perils lurk? Ditto athlete’s foot and fungicide.

Gingivitis, toothache, and dental problems would require implementing toothpaste, toothbrushes, and floss (all of which can be improvised), but mouth disease is a notable omission.

[RAM]

Kuru seems like something that could become a real problem with a zombie apocalypse. It is highly contagious between species, so bestial zeds could also be vectors…

[Arek_PL]

why do not make motion sickness maybe this will be trait efect will be like this:
morale hit bigger speed = bigger unhappiness
chance to threw up if speed is higher than 40 km/h
if plater is in sealed car (walls and windshields everywhere) is higher chance to threw up (less fresh air)
gasoline engie will increase chance to threw up too and stack with sealed car debuff
weak stomach increase chance too but just after exiting vehicle player still can threw up

player will be warned before acident by comunication “you feel weak” or something like that and nexit big drop in morale player need to stop moving for 5 minutes and if car is sealed move outside too after waiting these 5 minutes all negative morale from motion sicknes will disapear

[RAM]

[quote=“Arek_PL, post:44, topic:6038”]why do not make motion sickness maybe this will be trait efect will be like this:
morale hit bigger speed = bigger unhappiness
chance to threw up if speed is higher than 40 km/h
if plater is in sealed car (walls and windshields everywhere) is higher chance to threw up (less fresh air)
gasoline engie will increase chance to threw up too and stack with sealed car debuff
weak stomach increase chance too but just after exiting vehicle player still can threw up

player will be warned before acident by comunication “you feel weak” or something like that and nexit big drop in morale player need to stop moving for 5 minutes and if car is sealed move outside too after waiting these 5 minutes all negative morale from motion sicknes will disapear[/quote]
I like. Mutations could add to it by making you feel ill when thrown or falling or in air pressure extremes, such as in deep facilities or strong weather systems or high buildings, which would have all manner of serious issues if their air-conditioning wasn’t working…
Another relevant thing would be open windows. Perhaps adding only partial weather protection when open. You are still getting damp, but definitely not being directly rained on when a window is open. This could also be applied to unsealed vehicles with a roof, more so if, perhaps, the roof were to extend beyond the player’s tile. This also raises the issue of air deflection, a motorcycle with a well-designed windscreen should be able to, when above certain speeds, keep a rider largely protected from weather, by pulling the air from below and pushing away what is falling from above…

[bugsniper]

Maybe a full continuum of organ disease.

[ul][li]Lung disease[/li][/ul]

Caused by excess amounts of smoked drugs. Gives you asthma.

[ul][li]Heart disease[/li][/ul]

Caused by insufficient amounts of salt or excessive quantities of junk food. Makes you go unconscious when running away from zombies for long periods of time.

[ul][li]Liver disease[/li][/ul]

Caused by excessive consumption of tylenol and alcohol. Makes you heal slower and reduces your overall health. Detected by yellowing of skin.

[ul][li]Kidney disease[/li][/ul]

Caused by excessive thirst. Makes it so that you get less sleep than normal by sleeping, and if you fall unconscious due to lack of sleep from this, it kills you.

[ul][li]Pancreas[/li][/ul]

Causes the diabetes we’ve already mentioned.
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[RAM]

Atrophy: If you do not leave your house for six months, then your physical stats get penalised…

[system]

I like the idea of genetically modified parasites/bacteria/viri that increase stats for a short time. Maybe even have the player able to use a switch and swap system of benefits and disabilities on their Buff Sick[sup]tm[/sup] to create their ideal infection!

[Nioca]

What about Headaches and Migraines? Both could be easily represented as a pain-based effect. Headaches seems like the sort of thing that could crop up with poor nutrition and diet, and could be irritating without being debilitating (although having painkillers handy for it would probably be a good call), and could also be inflicted by the environment or certain attacks. Migraines would basically be a headache’s bigger brother, inflicting heavier pain along with perhaps nausea and reduced perception, with a duration lasting anywhere from 12-72 hours; they’d probably only be acquired either by the attacks or effects of certain monsters (such as getting the evil eye from a Flaming Eye), or by a trait which would cause them periodically (some environmental effects might cause it as well, but I’m not far enough in the game to suggest specifics).

[RAM]

Viral good fortune.

[bugsniper]

Hope it’s ok to bump this thread again.

How about joint pain and atrophy (temporary strength loss) as chance conditions when you have low health.

[Pthalocy]

While new threads are probably preferred, effects.json has since been made. Might come in handy re-visiting this topic, considering that.

Is there a way for diseases to temporarily (until healed or cured) limit the max health a body part can have? I could see some diseases not disabling you from work, but leaving you very fragile in this way. It might go a long way in mimicking bugs where you’re really quite alright sitting and reading, but risk overdoing it just trying to go outside for a walk. Heavens forbid you run into something normally manageable with what amounts to a bodily glass jaw trait.

Not sure what disease could benefit from such a form of frailty, but it’d be a different learning curve from what we have already.