# Suggestion: Digging Wells in Winter

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [May 7, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720 "2017-05-07T15:36:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![SBombay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sbombay/32/7221_2.png) [@SBombay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SBombay)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720/1 "2017-05-07T15:36:11Z")

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I suggest only allowing wells to be dug in the Spring, Summer and Fall. Living in the NorthEast I can tell you than digging a hole, especially a well, during the winter would be very hard to do.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720/2 "2017-05-07T19:18:31Z")

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I don t think it matters much when digging through rock.

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**Author:** ![SBombay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sbombay/32/7221_2.png) [@SBombay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SBombay)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 2:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720/3 "2017-05-08T14:31:21Z")

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Since we are working with a shovel here it is more a problem of digging down below the frost line. That averages around 44" in my part of the NorthEast during the winter. The moisture in those 3+ feet of soil makes it basically ice.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720/4 "2017-05-09T17:49:34Z")

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I thought digging a well requires a mining tool like a pike? I ll look that up.

\*edit: I looked it up an apparently we only need a shovel. If we want to change this though i would suggest that we either include a mining tool as always needed or at least in the winter time. And if so make it take a bit longer to dig a well when working in temps below 0°.

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**Author:** ![Miloch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/miloch/32/1339_2.png) [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720/5 "2017-05-10T15:50:03Z")

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You meant a pick, not a pike before, friend.  
It would be much more difficult to dig a well in winter. I think, however, that it crosses the lines on realism vs worth taking the time to code. We don’t have snow in game yet and snow during winter would be a very easy source of water (as long as you have a fire, of course). So from a balance standpoint it’s not exactly game breaking considering the requirements… Also, it’s not like it stops you, it just takes a lot more effort.

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/suggestion-digging-wells-in-winter/13720/6 "2017-05-11T13:48:57Z")

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I am not against simulating things that do not add anything but increased immersion. Anything to make the game feel more “real”.

Though i am with Miloch here. I won t suggest something like this before other code work. There are more important things.

Maybe later or if someone volunteers.

And thanks for the correction Miloch.