Storing items inside slings etc?

ianpwilliams · 2015-11-28T19:26:19.000Z

Maybe you could have items selected for “quick drop”, and then when you press the " quick drop" key they are all dropped at once. Although there is multi drop I suppose.

Adragis029 · 2015-11-28T22:22:29.000Z

The DF system isn’t TOO obtuse. Only problem is, of course, fiddliness.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2015-11-29T06:01:07.000Z

There was a mod that made most backpacks and pants and etc into containers that actually stored items, but that has been offline for a while.

stk2008 · 2015-11-29T10:58:19.000Z

FunsizeNinja123:

There was a mod that made most backpacks and pants and etc into containers that actually stored items, but that has been offline for a while.

damn really i never see this
Suppose it wont even work now even of we could find it would love to give it a go

Random_dragon · 2015-11-29T11:48:35.000Z

FunsizeNinja123:

There was a mod that made most backpacks and pants and etc into containers that actually stored items, but that has been offline for a while.

There was a mod for this? Any idea where it was? Always worth a look.

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stk2008 · 2015-11-29T16:08:25.000Z

i to realy would like to try it.
Problem is if it dont work i wont be able to fix it

Random_dragon · 2015-11-29T16:20:30.000Z

In a nutshell…yeah. I want to look at such a thing to see if I could mess around with it to unfuck it. o3o

stk2008 · 2015-11-29T16:36:37.000Z

Random_dragon:

In a nutshell…yeah. I want to look at such a thing to see if I could mess around with it to unfuck it. o3o

nice

FunsizeNinja123 · 2015-11-29T18:09:53.000Z

Yeah, it’s in the Lab somewhere. I’ll try to find it. I think CIB made it…?

Random_dragon · 2015-11-29T18:23:43.000Z

Not sure how that mod does it, but the changes to holster/sheath action have made it sorta possible. Key discovery is that the action’s “merge sheath, scabbard, and holster functions” code means you can define your own flag and it won’t care that you made it up on the spot.

    {
        "type" : "ARMOR",
        "id" : "backpack_alt",
        "name" : "tactical backpack",
        "weight" : 633,
        "color" : "green",
        "covers" : ["TORSO"],
        "to_hit" : 0,
        "storage" : 20,
        "symbol" : "[",
        "description" : "A small backpack, good storage for a little encumbrance.  Use it to stow away assorted junk.",
        "price" : 3900,
        "material" : ["cotton"],
        "volume" : 8,
        "cutting" : 0,
        "warmth" : 5,
        "phase" : "solid",
        "encumbrance" : 10,
        "bashing" : -4,
        "coverage" : 30,
        "flags" : ["BELTED"],
        "material_thickness" : 2,
        "use_action" : [
          {
            "type": "holster",
            "holster_prompt": "Put item away",
            "holster_msg": "You put away your %s",
            "multi": 2,
            "min_volume": 1,
            "max_volume": 10,
            "draw_speed": 80,
            "flags": ["SHEATH_MISC"]
          }
        ]
    },

There’s one caveat though. It doesn’t seem like defining multiple instances of the holster use_action works. This means you can’t have multiple separate compartments with different max capacities.

Even if you could resolve that issue, the volume fuckery only lets you store X items between Y and Z volume. No way to adapt it to true DF-style (store any number of items up to a set volume capacity) backpacks yet.

someguy · 2015-11-29T23:00:58.000Z

CataTweaks made bag like items into containers.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2015-11-29T23:12:56.000Z

someguy:

CataTweaks made bag like items into containers.

AHHAH THAT WAS THE ONE!

Random_dragon · 2015-11-29T23:47:36.000Z

someguy:

CataTweaks made bag like items into containers.

This should be Fun.

Litppunk · 2015-11-30T00:42:20.000Z

OH! OH! GO DRAGON!!! Maybe while you are at it… if you don’t feel that taking on that entire system is enough… figure out how to bag the bags into other bags with a minimum of item space taken up by items in 2nd bag volume.

In other words:
Backpack > Medical bag > medicine and related items

minimum of 4 (maybe 5?) volume taken by items + bag > minimum of 4 volume taken (by medicine bag of items) > 4 volume of (items)

If nothing else just keep in mind the idea of that being something to be added later, and leave it open for such later… if you can. Dam, am I a needy bastard or what?

Random_dragon · 2015-11-30T01:37:55.000Z

From the looks of it, this thing is a big old altered source code. Given I have enough trouble poking the normal CDDA source without it imploding, I doubt I’d be the best one to extract any usable content out of that. ;_;

As it is, it looks like the perpetual gremlin of this universal suggestion, the UI complexity, was what made that mod stall out.

Litppunk · 2015-11-30T01:46:53.000Z

Oh thanks for looking into it though dragon. Your effort is appreciated.

Random_dragon · 2015-11-30T01:53:16.000Z

Does still look like parts of it would remain useful if given a once-over by someone who knows the source code better, though.

Litppunk · 2015-11-30T02:04:00.000Z

Yay 5 cheers for stepping stones!
Hip hip Horah!

Robik · 2015-11-30T07:08:08.000Z

I actually plan to revive CataTweaks in December to make an anniversary edition.

While chances of getting it merged into the mainline are somewhere between 0 and -100% (I won’t even bother trying, had enough drama with this thing already), I will do my best to code it with better maintainability in mind, thus I might be able to keep it alive longer than a month this time around.

Litppunk · 2015-11-30T14:51:53.000Z

well… that sounds nice. Hope it comes out better than you plan ^.^