# Stone forge, charcoal kiln and clay kiln - do they create smoke?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [January 16, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809 "2018-01-16T09:24:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Viik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Viik)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809/21 "2018-01-22T11:01:39Z")
> [@Mantar](#):
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> I know all about innawoods characters, having played three of them long term. Jackhammers can be found outside cities, as can the components to make them – unless you’re just avoiding all buildings and other structures? That’d be unusually hardcore IMO.
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> One of my innawoods guys does avoid any structure that’s not abandoned, he runs if there’s more than one zombie, and he’s still got a pickaxe he found at a mine.
Even if there is something somewhere, it’s not too obvious how to locate it. Can’t just follow a road or something like that.
I’ll check map when character dies.
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### Author:  [@Viik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Viik)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809/22 "2018-01-22T11:04:08Z")
> [@syler1983](#):
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> I think the fire rings are from More Survival Tools Mod. Probably that’s why you can’t disassembled them.
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> And why doesn’t fireplaces thing sound like a bug to you?
Clay kiln is a sub-receipt of the brick kiln (according to its json), which can be even carried around I think. Getting impression that stationary charcoal kiln, stone forge and clay kiln are kind of ad-hoc items. This is why they can be easily disassembled.
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### Author:  [@syler1983](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/syler1983)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809/23 "2018-01-22T11:17:39Z")
Stationary forges and kilns also can store much more charcoal and they are easier to use and to construct (cause portable kilns are made from metal), so they aren’t just stationary versions of portable kilns and forges.
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### Author:  [@Viik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Viik)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809/24 "2018-01-22T11:53:52Z")
> [@syler1983](#):
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> Stationary forges and kilns also can store much more charcoal and they are easier to use and to construct (cause portable kilns are made from metal), so they aren’t just stationary versions of portable kilns and forges.
Yes, my point is that they are derived from objects that are not stationary. Which might have an impact in how they are disassembled.
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### Author:  [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809/25 "2018-01-22T13:44:57Z")
The fire ring is made by placing a bunch of stones in a ring shape, while the fireplace is made by shaping and fitting stones into a structure that draws smoke upwards into a chimney. The fire ring has EASY\_DECONSTRUCT, which should allow the player to disassemble it without tools.
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### Author:  [@syler1983](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/syler1983)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809/26 "2018-01-22T13:46:52Z")
I’m sorry i was wrong. You can deconstruct the fire ring.
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