# Stims **URL:** \ **Category:** The Bunker\ **Created:** [October 9, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442 "2013-10-09T21:25:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/1 "2013-10-09T21:25:32Z")

So, what’s the strongest? Methacola? What can be used the most long-term without risk of your heart going kaboom? Can we get an industrial heart bionic BECAUSE STIMS. And while we’re at it, some kind of military grade combat stim would be nice… Mayhaps a way to make meth enmass… ---

**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/2 "2013-10-09T21:29:08Z")

Adrenaline injectors are the largest, when you inject yourself with them while still being on an adrenaline rush they provide +100 stim (IIRC the threshold is 250 stim before your heart bursts). ---

**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/3 "2013-10-10T20:01:51Z")

Huh, cbms or mutations that protect against stim overuse would be legit. I could definitely see a govt making such a thing for a supersoldier program if stims were as effective as they are in game. ---

**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/4 "2013-10-10T20:31:50Z")

We should really have some sort of experimental millitary stim with huge stat gains but a massive overuse penality ---

**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/5 "2013-10-10T20:48:42Z")

There should be a rage drug if were going into combat stims. It would make your character “black out” for several turns and as he/her awakes there are surrounded by a bunch off mutilated corpses, but have it to were it alerts nearby enemies so its not a “win” button. ---

**Author:** ![youtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/779978/32.png) [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/6 "2013-10-10T21:08:22Z")

how do you tell what your stim level is so you dont OD? ---

**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/7 "2013-10-10T21:29:29Z")

> [@youtoo](#): > > how do you tell what your stim level is so you dont OD? You can’t, which is one of the things that makes OD’s so dangerous, there is little or no warning before they happen. ---

**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/8 "2013-10-10T21:59:55Z")

I want my stem packs. (Lol more fallout references) ---

**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/9 "2013-10-10T22:09:14Z")

[quote=“gtaguy, post:8, topic:3442”]I want my stem packs. (Lol more fallout references)[/quote] If we’re gonna be going with stimulants and fallout references might as well go with “Psycho” Which according to the lore is a military chem, but then again it’s still unclear how Jet got to The Capitol Wasteland (If you’re gonna be all blarg and ignore Fallout: Tactics because of engine limitations…) …While I’m thinking of Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel I can’t help but think of “Mutie” it had a nice clusterfuck of side effects and a painful come-down but what it’d do was increase strength dramatically (I think I went from 10 Strength in Powered armor to 14 maybe 16, in Tactics SPECIALs could go above 10) while draining Intelligence dramatically (I think six points, maybe 8) and lowering Charisma by 6 points. …The game could use a strength boosting chem, tired of firing up cheat engine to move wrecks XD ---

**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/10 "2013-10-11T13:46:52Z")

In tactics you could recruit ghouls and supermutants, whose stats didn’t necessarily stop at 10. \>.\> Something like psycho would be nice. Maybe a huge boost, but repeated use might give you schizophrenia, or short-term hallucinogenic effects. ---

**Author:** ![vultures](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vultures/32/69_2.png) [@vultures](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vultures)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/11 "2013-10-11T14:51:41Z")

Oh, DO merge in some stims made off mutagen concept, so we’re able to actually cook ourselves into death. Fifteen minutes of fame and a lifetime of PAIN:\_100. ---

**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/12 "2013-10-11T15:02:58Z")

[quote=“vultures, post:11, topic:3442”]Oh, DO merge in some stims made off mutagen concept, so we’re able to actually cook ourselves into death. Fifteen minutes of fame and a lifetime of PAIN:\_100.[/quote] Get web-weaver and try to cook methacola over an open fire. Thermal Dissipation did not save me. ---

**Author:** ![GlyphGryph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/glyphgryph/32/847_2.png) [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/13 "2013-10-11T15:06:43Z")

[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:3, topic:3442”]Huh, cbms or mutations that protect against stim overuse would be legit. I could definitely see a govt making such a thing for a supersoldier program if stims were as effective as they are in game.[/quote] And I could see supersoldier stims that would simply outright kill anyone that didn’t have some sort of extra level of protection, to boot. ---

**Author:** ![vultures](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vultures/32/69_2.png) [@vultures](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vultures)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/14 "2013-10-11T15:16:44Z")

Just to point out, I’m not against coding in buffs, I’m onto the whole bunch that hadn’t tried eating mutagens and helping themselves with CBMs. I’m a tweaker too, and my singing sword is a matter of my own prefference, not of the whole community. And a boo-boo to wrap it up - Frog Lickers. ---

**Author:** ![Miloch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/miloch/32/1339_2.png) [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/15 "2013-10-12T03:19:43Z")

If we’re going with performance enhancing drugs (snickers) I’d say we should implement a drug harness ala juicers from the RIFTS RPG. 😃 > **[Juicer](http://rifts.wikia.com/wiki/Juicer)** > > A juicer is a form of any sentient being enhanced by chemicals, providing the being with an augmented strength and endurance. The Juicers technology was originally created in Pre-Rifts Germany during the time of tension that preceded the Great... ---

**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/16 "2013-10-12T03:29:07Z")

Chems, Mutation, Bionics, fuck it let’s have it all. Humanity is for quitters. ---

**Author:** ![vultures](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vultures/32/69_2.png) [@vultures](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vultures)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/17 "2013-10-13T15:39:27Z")

Yup, let’s have designer drugs. Designed for military testing, too. Let’s make them veiled - "This seams like some sort of high-grade stimulant. You haven’t heard of it. Maybe your eyes will pop. Maybe it’s popcorn, let’s try it!" What range of side and after-effects would you prefer other than plain addiction, and how would it support the !FUN! in the game? Profanity is for quitters. ---

**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/18 "2013-10-13T15:55:26Z")

[quote=“vultures, post:17, topic:3442”]Yup, let’s have designer drugs. Designed for military testing, too. Let’s make them veiled - "This seams like some sort of high-grade stimulant. You haven’t heard of it. Maybe your eyes will pop. Maybe it’s popcorn, let’s try it!" What range of side and after-effects would you prefer other than plain addiction, and how would it support the !FUN! in the game? Profanity is for quitters.[/quote] Well you said it yourself, maybe not a lifetime of pain but a significant amount of time? Damage to the body? The chem “Psycho” in fallout would increase damage dealt while lowering intelligence, correct me if I’m wrong on this but having a stim level over 20 scares NPCs right? Here’s the holotape from Operation Anchorage on Psycho, pulled it off the wiki for those interested. [spoiler]Physician’s Log, Doctor Adrienn Adami, United States Army, Anchorage, Alaska forward base. Considering what’s at stake, General Chase and I both feel the chem codenamed “Psycho” can be of significant use during this operation. I’ve read the early clinical trials, and there are certainly some possible side effects – dementia, psychotic aggression. And of course addiction. But the adverse effects seem limited. Okay, I do realize the chem was developed by Chase’s R&D division, but if the thing works it works. Can we really afford to be picky at this point? Some of these groundpounders have family in Anchorage. I’ll give them any boost I damn well can. I just hope my Hippocratic Oath is still speaking to me when this whole mess is over with…[/spoiler] ---

**Author:** ![vultures](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vultures/32/69_2.png) [@vultures](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vultures)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/19 "2013-10-13T16:10:04Z")

Lemme be clear, I want a wide selection of buffs too just as long they ain’t stimpacks in their descriptive layout, boosting health whilst healing every type of damage there is. That’s called Divine Healing here-there, and here we pack buffs as comestibles - not insta-miracles. If there is any need for a steroid-bound substance that further endulges in stimulating the brain so the body keeps up with the strain, I’m totally OK with that. Keep in mind, though, that the legend tells of test-dummy squads sent into the eye of battle only to return for further testing, forgotten about for the entire future. All this is for - the actual addition should be fun, just as coke whereas you snort a bump only to get you through a close one. I just don’t want to see using a stim yields a crystalmeth-like addiction and a recovery process, because dirty drugs do just that. ---

**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442/20 "2013-10-13T16:20:17Z")

[quote=“vultures, post:19, topic:3442”]Lemme be clear, I want a wide selection of buffs too just as long they ain’t stimpacks in their descriptive layout, boosting health whilst healing every type of damage there is. That’s called Divine Healing here-there, and here we pack buffs as comestibles - not insta-miracles. If there is any need for a steroid-bound substance that further endulges in stimulating the brain so the body keeps up with the strain, I’m totally OK with that. Keep in mind, though, that the legend tells of test-dummy squads sent into the eye of battle only to return for further testing, forgotten about for the entire future. All this is for - the actual addition should be fun, just as coke whereas you snort a bump only to get you through a close one. I just don’t want to see using a stim yields a crystalmeth-like addiction and a recovery process, because dirty drugs do just that.[/quote] Fair enough, don’t see anything wrong there XD [Next page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stims/3442.md?page=2)