# Steroids

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [February 6, 2014, 11:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989 "2014-02-06T11:33:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Soyweiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/soyweiser/32/37_2.png) [@Soyweiser](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Soyweiser)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2014, 11:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/1 "2014-02-06T11:33:38Z")

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We have all kinds of illegal drugs in the game. But not steroids. Why not?

I know normally steroids are a use a lot of them and over time you grow stronger than your genetic potential, but for game purposes we could make them give you a small str boost. (if used with one shot). And a larger str boost if used multiple times in a row, but then with a big metabolic crash penalty later.

Just a small suggestion. Using the forum as an idea dump.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/2 "2014-02-07T01:41:01Z")

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Yeah, it’s an idea. Not sure how to model the health losses from long-term use, since ST currently determines HP as well.

(HUGE currently finagles it by docking max HP after recalculating. That’ll break if anything else recalcs HP before you get HUGE\_OK. I don’t have a better solution, or at least not without massive infrastructure work that wold cause more problems than it’s worth, though.)

Aside from that side-effect problem, yeah, could be interesting.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/3 "2014-02-07T04:05:47Z")

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In general the drugs have basically nothing to do with their real-world counterparts.  
This bugs the crap out of me.  
If you want a scifi-like temporary strength-boosing drug, just call it a “stimpack” and stick it in with the other scifi items.  
If you want something that over time enhances healing rate and has moderate-to-severe side effects with long-term use, it needs to wait for some kind of system for long-term injury and healing.

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**Author:** ![TheGrifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 7:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/4 "2014-02-07T07:35:48Z")

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Steroids are already in the game. They’re called “Alpha Serum”.

\*note to self: Add male gynecomastia to list of alpha serum possible mutations… Bob had bitch-tits.

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**Author:** ![Belteshazzar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Belteshazzar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Belteshazzar)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 7:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/5 "2014-02-07T07:58:08Z")

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Steroids and other long term drugs could possibly use a disease framework?

I know some of those can last pretty long if things don’t go your way (then again, might get odd issues like breather masks cutting into your ‘gains’.)

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 8:09am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/6 "2014-02-07T08:09:36Z")

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I like the steroids idea - and no, they are not alpha serum.

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**Author:** ![Soyweiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/soyweiser/32/37_2.png) [@Soyweiser](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Soyweiser)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2014, 9:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/7 "2014-02-07T09:40:12Z")

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Actually, a lot of steroids are not that dangerous, and the bad health effects only happen with steroid overuse. But I’m okay at making the effects bad for game balance. 😃

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/8 "2014-02-08T00:25:08Z")

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I want a long lasting cocaine substitute first.

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/steroids/4989/9 "2014-02-08T02:16:58Z")

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[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:3, topic:4989”]In general the drugs have basically nothing to do with their real-world counterparts.  
This bugs the crap out of me.[/quote]  
I’m pretty sure I’m gonna look into a drug/addiction/health system rewrite once my laptop gets finished being repaired, which should help ease that annoyance. 😛