# \[Some of the latest experimental\] Lighter
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-of-the-latest-experimental-lighter/9082
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [March 7, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-of-the-latest-experimental-lighter/9082 "2015-03-07T15:58:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@EditorRUS](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EditorRUS)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-of-the-latest-experimental-lighter/9082/1 "2015-03-07T15:58:24Z")
I didn’t discover that bug myself, it was said by someone else, but anyway, here’s a problem. If you disassemble, say, empty lighter, you will always get “pilot light” which is essential to craft lighter. So when you craft a lighter out of given pilot light, you get a _full_ lighter essentially refueling the first lighter using nothing (well, 6 game seconds, but converting time to gasoline is interesting magic).
I don’t know whether it still exists (I’ve dropped cataclysm for a while), but I checked it on my [468c52e] version and it works.
BTW seems like it might affect everything similar to lighters in terms of charge (random charge upon creation).
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-of-the-latest-experimental-lighter/9082/2 "2015-03-07T16:35:53Z")
Pretty sure lighters aren’t craftable. If they are, that’s probably a bug.
Reversible recipes involving lighters should return the lighters used to craft them, not create new ones.
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2015, 5:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-of-the-latest-experimental-lighter/9082/3 "2015-03-07T17:28:37Z")
You can get a recipe to craft a lighter, but only with the debug menu.
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### Author:  [@EditorRUS](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EditorRUS)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/some-of-the-latest-experimental-lighter/9082/4 "2015-03-07T17:49:12Z")
Is that so? The one who told me about the bug also said it’s possible to learn the recipe by disassembling lighters.
> В моей кате явно что-то не так... Персонаж точно учил рецепт зажигалки. Но он умер.
Apparently something is not right about my CataDDA... I am sure my character managed to learn the recipe. But he's died. -- Translation
UPD: Tried to learn the recipe by disassembling lighter and it didn’t work. Probably he misundestood something. Not-A-Bug then.