# \[Solved-NPCs are Evil\] Reliable crash from save (Win7x64)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [January 7, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74 "2013-01-07T16:30:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![n9103](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e19adc/32.png) [@n9103](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/n9103)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74/1 "2013-01-07T16:30:31Z")

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I seem to keep crashing from this certain point in my save, whenever I go and proceed with reading Self Esteem for Dummies in my inventory (or the one that got duped from the crash on the counter next to me)  
Always crashes on the third reading session.  
Haven’t seen any bugs relating to reading, so I assume that this issue will persist in the newest builds.

link to zip of save folder: [https://www.dropbox.com/s/nbh0ddcm5iozwkh/save.zip](https://www.dropbox.com/s/nbh0ddcm5iozwkh/save.zip) (E: Removed, Solved)  
(reminder: this is from the 5Jan bugfix version)

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**Author:** ![The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/the_darkling_wolf/32/828_2.png) [@The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_Darkling_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74/2 "2013-01-07T20:46:30Z")

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Hrm. Seems to be your NPC doing something bad, blowing his head up and waiting resulted in no crash.

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**Author:** ![n9103](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e19adc/32.png) [@n9103](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/n9103)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74/3 "2013-01-07T20:54:05Z")

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Indeed… odd. alright, thanks.  
Never did like NPCs as they have been. More justification to that I suppose.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/the_darkling_wolf/32/828_2.png) [@The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_Darkling_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74/4 "2013-01-07T21:08:24Z")

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Not a problem, it’s regrettable that NPCs are so buggy.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74/5 "2013-01-08T00:55:24Z")

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NPCs should randomly have their heads exploded if they attempt to: Pick up that Mininuke (active), Pick up that grenade (active), pick up that dynamite (active), or Pick up that Tear Gas Grenade (active).

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**Author:** ![The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/the_darkling_wolf/32/828_2.png) [@The\_Darkling\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/The_Darkling_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-npcs-are-evil-reliable-crash-from-save-win7x64/74/6 "2013-01-08T11:01:23Z")

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NPCs haven’t attempted to pick up active grenades since about 6 months ago.