# Small item volume issues

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/small-item-volume-issues/12006>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [June 8, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/small-item-volume-issues/12006 "2016-06-08T11:37:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Ashtray\_Gray](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ashtray_gray/32/9399_2.png) [@Ashtray\_Gray](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ashtray_Gray)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/small-item-volume-issues/12006/1 "2016-06-08T11:37:11Z")

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It seems that there are many things that should be volume 0 especially when compared to items with volume 1. In the experimental any kind of drug has volume 1, even one dose worth. Rolling papers have a volume of 1. In comparison a pair of socks, a pair of work gloves, a punch dagger, all have volume 1 as well. In reality you could carry many doses of whatever pills or drugs or rolling papers in the same volume as a pair of wool socks. It doesn’t make a great deal of sense, especially when ten pills of the the same drug has 1/10 the volume as 10 pills of different drugs.

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**Author:** ![pisskop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/pisskop/32/1327_2.png) [@pisskop](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pisskop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/small-item-volume-issues/12006/2 "2016-06-08T12:32:17Z")

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id be happy to have the volume 0 if you stopped being able to keep meds magically seperated.

packaging is 1 volume for most items.

and, socks can be balled up into fist sized pairs

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**Author:** ![Coolthulhu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/coolthulhu/32/2446_2.png) [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/small-item-volume-issues/12006/3 "2016-06-08T12:44:10Z")

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You can’t keep pills loose in a backpack. Requiring that 1 to represent some sort of (abstracted out) plastic container makes much more sense than allowing bullshit like a bag of cocaine, flour, aspirin and salt, all mixed up, yet easy to pick individual items from.

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/small-item-volume-issues/12006/4 "2016-06-08T18:43:06Z")

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Really what I’d like to see is eventual granularity upgrade of the volume system (Similar to what we got when the granularity of the weight system went from 1/4lbs-\>1 gram). Of course you gotta be able to handle rigid/soft containers first, but it’s definitely something I’d like to eventually see.