Sleeping is almost real-time

Thwap · 2014-12-03T20:30:41.000Z

I’m being hollered at to come here and check up on the status of this bug by a couple people who’ve heard my tales of this game but want to wait until “game explodes if you get too into base-building” is dealt with to try it.

Zireael · 2014-12-04T08:33:35.000Z

Someone on reddit suggested making rags/bones etc work like ammo (have charges). I believe the idea has been thrown around on the forums too.

kevin.granade · 2014-12-04T08:59:23.000Z

I’m working on it, the solution to this includes an overhaul of item/map interactions, and I don’t exactly have unlimited time to work on it. A little patience would be appreciated.

Thwap · 2014-12-04T20:06:17.000Z

Thanks man, I’ll let them know it’s being handled.

NOMOETOE · 2014-12-04T21:12:24.000Z

Kevin Granade:

I’m working on it, the solution to this includes an overhaul of item/map interactions, and I don’t exactly have unlimited time to work on it. A little patience would be appreciated.

Well you have a solution. That’s good enough for me.

system · 2014-12-18T17:06:17.000Z

Out of curiosity, I loaded up the resource monitor while my character was sleeping to see where the bottleneck was occuring, since I have an i7 and I find it surprising that a largely text-based game is making it choke. To my surprise I discovered that total CPU usage never goes above 15% even while the game is locked up. That’s not even a single core pegged out. RAM use is about 3.5 gigs, though. Given the 4 gig limit for 32-bit programs, is this where the bottleneck is occuring?

kevin.granade · 2014-12-18T17:16:04.000Z

Probably memory loads are the bottleneck rather than instruction processing.
What it’s doing is scanning through the tens of thousands of nearby items looking for the active ones to process.
I have it mostly overhauled to allow it to just keep track of the active items seperately, at which point the problem should vanish unless you have 10,000+ active items, I have a way to fix that too, but it won’t be immediate.

system · 2014-12-18T17:23:13.000Z

Kevin Granade:

Probably memory loads are the bottleneck rather than instruction processing.

Interesting, interesting. Would a 4 gig RAM disk solve the problem then? I mean, it’s a push-it-till-it-moves solution, but better than nothing until you can roll out a patch.

Coolthulhu · 2014-12-18T18:57:42.000Z

CarlStayBack!:

Interesting, interesting. Would a 4 gig RAM disk solve the problem then? I mean, it’s a push-it-till-it-moves solution, but better than nothing until you can roll out a patch.

No, your OS already caches disk reads in RAM. Also, disk read/writes don’t happen all that often during the game, mostly just on saves or when moving around.

Memory reads as in “reads from RAM into CPU cache”.

kevin.granade · 2014-12-22T01:37:10.000Z

Latest build has a fix for this. Again, unless you have ridiculous amounts of active items (like a literal ton of butchered meat), it should be super fast now.
I’m working on that problem too, might have a fix later today.

Maur · 2014-12-22T03:16:43.000Z

Great!

Thwap · 2014-12-22T03:51:13.000Z

Awesome!

system · 2014-12-22T06:02:51.000Z

Excellent, and thank you. I can start sleeping in my base again!

Edit: Nope. It’s actually worse now than it was before. It takes 3x-5x longer than before, and now I’m also getting significant lag with movement that I didn’t have before. Here’s my savefile if you want to try it for yourself. http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=32206271585723660213

Version: 9e30a07

Thwap · 2014-12-22T07:53:16.000Z

Worse here too. Turning item spawn up to 10 and going near a mall now results in freezing and crashing rather than just slowdown.

I didn’t keep up on experimental builds between 0.A and 0.B, what change introduced this problem?

Coolthulhu · 2014-12-22T10:28:20.000Z

Confirming both speedup and slowdown.

10 item spawn in the city doesn’t slow down the game noticeably.

Fails the “Mall test” rather hard, though. My old save with a mid-sized cargo carrier vehicle full of stuff also seemed slower.

I somehow managed to crash the game twice just walking around the city with 10 item spawn.

Hague · 2014-12-22T21:12:10.000Z

Maybe as an easy stopgap someone could write up some stacked versions of various commonly stored items: bundles of scrap metal (not intrinsically the same as lumps, sheets, etc), plastic chunks, rags, leather, felt, etc. They’d have the same weight and volume as the unstacked versions. Perhaps add string or other items as requirement ala the bundle of plastic bags.

As an aside: I don’t say it often enough, Kevin, but you and the rest of the developers here put in a lot of great work. Your experience shows with regards to the way you conduct your development agenda. I really appreciate it. I’ve had lots of hours of fun playing Cataclysm:DDA. Thanks again!

iceball3 · 2014-12-24T07:29:18.000Z

Perhaps for vehicle destruction, does rubble hold active items? It seems like it would be appropriate for exploding vehicles to litter metal rubble where lumps and acraps of steel fall, said rubble containing whatever non active objects fell in.
Chances are i am misunderstanding, though.

KA101 · 2014-12-24T07:32:20.000Z

Active item == an item with a timer attached (grenade, can rot, lit kiln, etc). I’m pretty confident that smashing vehicles wouldn’t of itself generate anything timed. Points for creative thinking though.

dovla · 2014-12-24T07:36:07.000Z

KA101:

Active item == an item with a timer attached (grenade, can rot, lit kiln, etc). I’m pretty confident that smashing vehicles wouldn’t of itself generate anything timed. Points for creative thinking though.

Not until you implement rust/corrosion system anyway

iceball3 · 2014-12-24T07:44:48.000Z

dovla:

[quote=“KA101, post:48, topic:7997”]Active item == an item with a timer attached (grenade, can rot, lit kiln, etc). I’m pretty confident that smashing vehicles wouldn’t of itself generate anything timed. Points for creative thinking though.

Not until you implement rust/corrosion system anyway :P[/quote]Acid spitters (and acid rain if it comes back) does that job well enough, methinks.