Setting up a base

[Arek_PL]

do not fear lack of resources around your base, before resources will be unreachable you will have solar powered truck with crafting rigs and water colection system anyway but if you play experimentals with hordes you will want to move out of city to some quieter place

get some sort of dragable vehicle like shoping cart, they will help you a lot at early game

[ianpwilliams]

[quote=“Arek_PL, post:8, topic:11543”]do not fear lack of resources around your base, before resources will be unreachable you will have solar powered truck with crafting rigs and water colection system anyway but if you play experimentals with hordes you will want to move out of city to some quieter place

get some sort of dragable vehicle like shoping cart, they will help you a lot at early game[/quote]

Not sure where I’d know where to begin with solar power and crafting rigs! I would need a guide for that. I like the shopping cart idea though, assuming I can find one.

[Arek_PL]

you can create one by yourself, you need wheel (best casters), and two frames (like one light and one normal)

for custom vehicles try get stadionary solar powered crafting stadion first

[Azrad]

For nomadic lifestyles, or looting runs in general, I prefer to get my survivors to do it on foot while dragging a wheelbarrow. Cargo carriers are ideal since they hold the most volume*, and they can be dragged inside houses and stores for easier looting.

Furthermore, adding a few extra parts you can covert that wheelbarrow into a unicycle.

Aside from the cargo carrier/trunk, and frame, you’ll need these parts:

-Bicycle wheels. Wheelchair wheels might work as well. Any other type of wheel won’t be considered enough for a one-tile vehicle.
-Foot crank.
-Vehicle controls.
-Sheet for folding seat. I’m not sure if using a seat for a military seat will work.

If a survivor has decent strength they can pedal the wheelbarrow unicycle even when it’s loaded**, though it’s best to avoid trying to bump into things with it as folding seats are very fragile.

*not counting the cargo dimension.
**unless you load it with extremely heavy things.

[Arek_PL]

i used to turn shooping cart into cargo carrier bicycle but after casters stoped to be wheels what can be used with foot crank and later when bicycles were nerfed (no more 3 tile cargo carrier bicycle what can maintain high speed for free) i started to use normal vehicles, mostly electric

[Azrad]

In any case, for me, I look for a base that is somewhat easy to access for my survivor. Like… if a base is in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by nothing but forests, then chances are that I’ll go bored with it due to how hard it’ll be exploring other places. Even then, it’s somewhat negotiable for me, since later on in the game I’ll probably have a vehicle with lots of storage so my survivor can take long road trips exploring other places.

Aside from that, I like it if a base is somewhat close to a refugee center - or better yet, an outpost. I’m okay if the base is somewhat close to a town. Kinda okay if it’s close to a triffid grove. Definitely not okay if there’s any sort of fungal growth anywhere near it.

Ice labs have spoiled me though, since 90% of the time I want to make a base in an ice lab since it can store perishable goods for an infinite amount of time.

Still, I’ve made some bases in interesting places. One of my favorites was under a city. There was a tunnel sealed off by metal doors that connected the subway to a sewer. It made a nice slum-like base for my survivor who scavenged a horde-infested city during the night. Also managed to survive on a massive city by making a base in a fire station, and that run pretty much removed any chance of driving around since it was city everywhere.

[ianpwilliams]

Just drove my first vehicle, a school bus, which has plenty of storage. There’s a car too which is a bit more manageable, but it seems to be missing a wheel. I wonder if I can take a wheel from the bus for the car?. But this could certainly help with transporting supplies to my base.

[Arek_PL]

Just drove my first vehicle, a school bus, which has plenty of storage. There’s a car too which is a bit more manageable, but it seems to be missing a wheel. I wonder if I can take a wheel from the bus for the car?. But this could certainly help with transporting supplies to my base.

if you have skills and tools why not?

[pisskop]

Tools being a jack and a wrench, skills being 1 mechanics.

[ianpwilliams]

That sounds a little advanced for now. I’m thinking I might stick with the school bus (lots of storage in there), maybe even make it a mobile base. Are the worlds infinite in this game?

Is there a way I can raise my construction skill to 1 by doing small construction tasks? I wanted to be able to board up a window but I didn’t have the skill, and I haven’t found any construction books yet.

[Elidor_VON]

Yes, worlds are infinite.
And you can raise your construction skill to 1 by digging. Craft a digging stick and just dig around

[ianpwilliams]

Thanks, better get digging! And looks like I’m going on a road trip too…

[EditorRUS]

Fire station and garages with closed windows usually make the best bases. Metal door of a garage is almost invincible and therefore you can pretty much close yourself off the outside world. They also have enough space to accommodate a common car and tons of space.

[Arek_PL]

maybe in older versions, now zombies can smash walls and its far easier to break wall than door

[ianpwilliams]

Never mind, I died again. I had an infection in my left leg which killed me while I was reading a book by the fire. I am so good at dying in this game! Although I’m sure I’m learning a little bit more each time. I guess I should have driven to a hospital to try to cure the infection. Ah well, I always enjoy starting a new game with a new world.

Speaking of which, how does it work if you have the “Delete World” option off, and keep the world across multiple characters? I guess that your next character would start in the same shelter, and everything that happened would still be in effect eg dead zombies, crafted things etc? And would the same amount of the map be revealed, or would it start again from scratch? I’ve always set the world to delete when dying, but I guess it would introduce a new dynamic going through multiple characters in the same world?

[EditorRUS]

maybe in older versions, now zombies can smash walls and its far easier to break wall than door

What? Do walls have HP or something now? As far as I know only hulks and brutes and some nether creatures are able to break through walls.

[Arek_PL]

[quote=“EditorRUS, post:23, topic:11543”]

maybe in older versions, now zombies can smash walls and its far easier to break wall than door

What? Do walls have HP or something now? As far as I know only hulks and brutes and some nether creatures are able to break through walls.[/quote]
its realy hard for zombies to break it but large groups with brutes or strong zombies can destroy wall, it takes a lot of time but is fast enought to ambush hard sleeping character

[Elidor_VON]

Speaking of which, how does it work if you have the “Delete World” option off, and keep the world across multiple characters? I guess that your next character would start in the same shelter, and everything that happened would still be in effect eg dead zombies, crafted things etc? And would the same amount of the map be revealed, or would it start again from scratch? I’ve always set the world to delete when dying, but I guess it would introduce a new dynamic going through multiple characters in the same world?

World just stay as you left it. Next character can appear in the same place where the previous one spawned, but he also can appear somewhere else. You will be able to see only those parts of map that you current character revealed (because that’s make sense). Everything that was killed, crafted or destroyed will stay as it was when your previous character left the game. Once my @ died in a truck explosion and next guy found this burning vehicle.
You can even play two or more characters at once.

What? Do walls have HP or something now? As far as I know only hulks and brutes and some nether creatures are able to break through walls.

You and zeds can smash walls until the crash, but this is much easier when you got a sledgehammer. My character with 8 strength need to hit about 10 times with a sledgehammer to destroy wall. Just don’t do it when you’re inside the building.

[EditorRUS]

its realy hard for zombies to break it but large groups with brutes or strong zombies can destroy wall, it takes a lot of time but is fast enought to ambush hard sleeping character

You and zeds can smash walls until the crash, but this is much easier when you got a sledgehammer.

So basically it's sort of a smooth curve of probability now? Even 4 STR character is capable of bringing down a wall albeit it will take a couple of thousands hits to get one successful roll and the more strength you have, the more the probability is, right?

Well, not bad then.

[pisskop]

my understanding of it is

• that futnitue and terrain have a minstr and maxstr range.
  -Bashers attacks adjacent to the item have a 1-1 conversion from damage to str for bashing purposes.
  -if you can do more melee damage than the min str (idk how cutty stabby damage plays into this) you have a chance to destroy the item.
  -group bashers divide their distance from the item into their attacks, doing reduced damage but adding to the chance of success
  -destroyers like the hulk do 2.5x damage. borers like the mining robot do 50x
  -maxstr guarenttes item destruction if you hit it.