# Serums spawning without container
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/serums-spawning-without-container/9165
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [March 18, 2015, 7:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/serums-spawning-without-container/9165 "2015-03-18T07:37:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@Schilcote](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Schilcote)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 7:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/serums-spawning-without-container/9165/1 "2015-03-18T07:37:34Z")
0.C stable (I guess? Pretty sure I downloaded an experimental, but it was from the day C came out and the title bar says C soooooo…)
Windows SDL
Apparently serums (maybe only Feline serum) can spawn in labs without a container.
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 9:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/serums-spawning-without-container/9165/2 "2015-03-18T09:37:58Z")
Gotta love bugs unfixing themselves. Thanks for reporting.
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### Author:  [@BevapDin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BevapDin)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/serums-spawning-without-container/9165/3 "2015-03-18T20:00:52Z")
It probably spawned in a glass flask (which works just fine for me), but a monster has bashed the counter it is on and that bashing destroyed the flask, leaving its contents there. I have witnessed that a lot in liquor stores.
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### Author:  [@Schilcote](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Schilcote)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/serums-spawning-without-container/9165/4 "2015-03-18T22:05:35Z")
> [@BevapDin](#):
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> It probably spawned in a glass flask (which works just fine for me), but a monster has bashed the counter it is on and that bashing destroyed the flask, leaving its contents there. I have witnessed that a lot in liquor stores.
Could be that, but the counter was undamaged. Those are walk-overable tables anyway so I don’t think a zombie would attack them.
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### Author:  [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/serums-spawning-without-container/9165/5 "2015-03-18T22:27:53Z")
Zombie will occasionally attack obstacles that can be climbed over, and the glass bottles would break long before the counter itself would.
I’m not saying it’s this for sure, but it’s a very good possibility.