# Saprovore and carnivore? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Bunker\ **Created:** [April 5, 2014, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743 "2014-04-05T18:27:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![Blackopsman9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8797f3/32.png) [@Blackopsman9999](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blackopsman9999)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/1 "2014-04-05T18:27:28Z")

Can I eat fruit for less nutrition, or is saprovore only for meat now? ---

**Author:** ![Blaze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/2 "2014-04-05T19:26:24Z")

I’m fairly certain Saprovore doesn’t replace Carnivore anymore; you actually keep Carnivore and Saprovore is a different mutation entirely; so even if it was rotten you’d still get penalties since it’s fruit. ---

**Author:** ![Blackopsman9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8797f3/32.png) [@Blackopsman9999](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blackopsman9999)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/3 "2014-04-05T19:32:49Z")

I have both and tried eating fruit, not even just a penalty, it straight up refuses so I am starving. ---

**Author:** ![Mrnocamera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mrnocamera/32/61_2.png) [@Mrnocamera](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mrnocamera)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/4 "2014-04-05T19:36:02Z")

Having carnivore means you can’t eat veggies/fruit/wheat/anything not meat. ---

**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/5 "2014-04-05T19:49:27Z")

> [@Blaze](#): > > I’m fairly certain Saprovore doesn’t replace Carnivore anymore; you actually keep Carnivore and Saprovore is a different mutation entirely; so even if it was rotten you’d still get penalties since it’s fruit. Once I’m back in communication, alternative routes to “eat rotten stuff” will be a priority. Birds, Plants, and Rats should all be able to handle rotting vegetable matter, IMO. ---

**Author:** ![Blackopsman9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8797f3/32.png) [@Blackopsman9999](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blackopsman9999)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/6 "2014-04-05T19:50:36Z")

But it says I can, just suffering penalties, and my character was starving, I mean fucking after I tried fruit I ate 6 lunch meats and was still starving, and I also have no cutting tool. ---

**Author:** ![Nubsawce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/47e85d/32.png) [@Nubsawce](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nubsawce)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/7 "2014-04-06T18:29:01Z")

you can basically always start out by making a stone knife if in need of a cutting tool. Disarm a trap with a string, raid houses for a sewing kit, whatever, just find a thread. It’s easy from there, just a stick and a rock. I realize that it’s not always easy to find thread, but with the recent adding of traps to farms and things like this, it should be very doable and prevent you from ever starving from lack of butchering. ---

**Author:** ![jokermatt999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jokermatt999](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jokermatt999)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/8 "2014-04-06T22:25:39Z")

Actually, you can always get a long string from breaking a window, which can be dissembled into short strings without a cutting tool. ---

**Author:** ![Blaze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/9 "2014-04-06T23:01:49Z")

Rags can be disassembled into thread as well. ---

**Author:** ![Nubsawce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/47e85d/32.png) [@Nubsawce](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nubsawce)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/10 "2014-04-06T23:58:49Z")

I believe you actually need to cut the rags up though, which requires a blade already. If not, getting rags usually requires a blade. ---

**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 10:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/saprovore-and-carnivore/5743/11 "2014-04-11T10:32:36Z")

> [@KA101](#): > > [quote=“Blaze, post:2, topic:5743”]I’m fairly certain Saprovore doesn’t replace Carnivore anymore; you actually keep Carnivore and Saprovore is a different mutation entirely; so even if it was rotten you’d still get penalties since it’s fruit. Once I’m back in communication, alternative routes to “eat rotten stuff” will be a priority. Birds, Plants, and Rats should all be able to handle rotting vegetable matter, IMO.[/quote] That would be great!