# Robotic/Organic Non-Recognization By Turrets?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [December 2, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170 "2014-12-02T18:36:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Wanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@Wanderer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wanderer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/1 "2014-12-02T18:36:54Z")

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The lore says that the reason why the turrets and robots attack humans is agression amped to the max in an attempt of making it attack the zombies, and that backfired spectacularly.

But if the player mutated enough, or implanted enough bionics to NOT be recognized as a human? A post-threshold Slime/Lupine or someone with bionics in most of his body could be an unknown, and so not attacked?

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**Author:** ![Valpo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valpo/32/341_2.png) [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/2 "2014-12-02T19:16:59Z")

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That lore is only there because we can t make monsters fight eachother reliable yet. (factions and stuff?)  
Its bound to be changed when that funtions well ( i think)

So we shouldn t expand on it.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/3 "2014-12-02T19:19:05Z")

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[quote=“Wanderer, post:1, topic:8170”]The lore says that the reason why the turrets and robots attack humans is agression amped to the max in an attempt of making it attack the zombies, and that backfired spectacularly.

But if the player mutated enough, or implanted enough bionics to NOT be recognized as a human? A post-threshold Slime/Lupine or someone with bionics in most of his body could be an unknown, and so not attacked?[/quote]

The newspapers in-game also says that china was allegedly using mutated super-soldiers. What I’m curious of is how it can look at a mutated human and say “THIS IS HUMAN” but look at a zombie and think “DOG. INCAPABLE OF CRIME.”

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**Author:** ![Datanazush](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/datanazush/32/1055_2.png) [@Datanazush](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Datanazush)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/4 "2014-12-02T19:36:38Z")

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> [@EkarusRyndren](#):
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> “DOG. INCAPABLE OF CRIME.”

Those turrets operate on a very simplistic worldview then.  
 ![](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/414fzK8GGSL.jpg)

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**Author:** ![TheFlame52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theflame52/32/247_2.png) [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/5 "2014-12-02T20:06:27Z")

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IT’S BECAUSE INTER-FACTION FIGHTING HASN’T BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET.

IT’S JUST A PLACEHOLDER.

QUIT COMPLAINING.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/6 "2014-12-02T20:18:17Z")

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[quote=“TheFlame52, post:5, topic:8170”]IT’S BECAUSE INTER-FACTION FIGHTING HASN’T BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET.

IT’S JUST A PLACEHOLDER.

QUIT COMPLAINING.[/quote]

I like Datanazush’s answer better.

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**Author:** ![Wanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@Wanderer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wanderer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/7 "2014-12-02T20:36:57Z")

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[quote=“TheFlame52, post:5, topic:8170”]IT’S BECAUSE INTER-FACTION FIGHTING HASN’T BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET.

IT’S JUST A PLACEHOLDER.

QUIT COMPLAINING.[/quote]

Didn’t knew about it -\_\_- Ok, can someone close the thread?

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/8 "2014-12-03T00:50:11Z")

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Thanks for snapping for me, Flame. I’m testing a quick-fix now.

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**Author:** ![TheFlame52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theflame52/32/247_2.png) [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/9 "2014-12-03T01:02:23Z")

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> [@KA101](#):
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> Thanks for snapping for me, Flame. I’m testing a quick-fix now.

You’re welcome? And aw sweet, the beginnings of robots ignoring people. Is that going to be all thresholds, or just the less human ones?

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/robotic-organic-non-recognization-by-turrets/8170/10 "2014-12-03T01:06:26Z")

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> [@TheFlame52](#):
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> [quote=“KA101, post:8, topic:8170”]Thanks for snapping for me, Flame. I’m testing a quick-fix now.

You’re welcome? And aw sweet, the beginnings of robots ignoring people. Is that going to be all thresholds, or just the less human ones?[/quote]

Yeah, it gets annoying hearing the same complaint fifty times. And at this point, most I might do is have it test for Alpha and return if you aren’t Alpha, since those can still pass for non-mutated human.

[Should be good to go shortly.](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/10310)