# Rigid Table Manners not working as described (11131)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rigid-table-manners-not-working-as-described-11131/25158>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [November 4, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rigid-table-manners-not-working-as-described-11131/25158 "2020-11-04T13:50:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Paul\_Blay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/paul_blay/32/6803_2.png) [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/rigid-table-manners-not-working-as-described-11131/25158/1 "2020-11-04T13:50:25Z")

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So playing experimental, 11131, and I am getting “Ate like an animal” morale penalties even though I was eating inside an RV sitting on a seat next to a table. (I also had ceramic plate, pewter bowl, spoon and carving fork - but I don’t think those affect anything). According to the flavour text for Rigid Table Manners “Eating without a table and chair frustrates you, but eating like a civilized person gives you a bigger morale bonus.”

I have a save from just before I ate if required for confirmation.

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/45240>
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> Describe the bug
> You get “Ate like an animal” morale penalties when you should not.
> Even though I was eating inside an RV...