# Random Crashing 0.9

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [November 10, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908 "2013-11-10T18:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/1 "2013-11-10T18:27:10Z")

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Since I haven’t found a thread that describes this issue, I will just open one.

Whenever I play, the game sometimes randomly closes itself. No error message, no framerate drop or something. It just closes. I have no idea why this happens or what produces the bug but it’s frustrating.

How can I find out why this happens?

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/2 "2013-11-10T18:31:01Z")

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NPCs on by chance?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/3 "2013-11-10T18:44:59Z")

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static npcs false  
static spawn true

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**Author:** ![Caconym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aca169/32.png) [@Caconym](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Caconym)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/4 "2013-11-10T18:59:49Z")

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[quote=“Rookie, post:3, topic:3908”]static npcs false  
static spawn true[/quote]  
What about the random npc’s option?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/5 "2013-11-10T19:17:01Z")

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It’s toggled off.

I really can’t figure out why it’s crashing. Sometimes I can play 2 hours striaght without incident and sometimes it happeds every 10 minutes.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/6 "2013-11-10T19:19:41Z")

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[quote=“Rookie, post:5, topic:3908”]It’s toggled off.

I really can’t figure out why it’s crashing. Sometimes I can play 2 hours striaght without incident and sometimes it happeds every 10 minutes.[/quote]

Can we get more info? What’s going on when it crashes, where are you, do you have an artifact that breaks reality?

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**Author:** ![Klavor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@Klavor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Klavor)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/7 "2013-11-10T19:39:51Z")

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Same issue here. It’s quite frustrating. The game crashes for no obvious reason without showing any kind of error text.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/8 "2013-11-10T20:00:07Z")

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Just walking through a city, nothing special, still early game. Tried with and without tileset, happens in both cases.  
It just closes. I’m not doing any fancy or so, just randomly shuts down.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/9 "2013-11-10T20:03:20Z")

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[quote=“Rookie, post:8, topic:3908”]Just walking through a city, nothing special, still early game. Tried with and without tileset, happens in both cases.  
It just closes. I’m not doing any fancy or so, just randomly shuts down.[/quote]

It doesn’t have to be fancy to cause issues, is there any pattern at all, anything at all.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/10 "2013-11-10T21:11:15Z")

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No, that’s why I am asking if there are others experiencing the same. I will go on playing and will try to look for what might have caused it but for now I am really clueless.

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**Author:** ![keldoclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e19b73/32.png) [@keldoclock](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/keldoclock)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 1:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/11 "2013-11-11T01:02:09Z")

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Yeah, I also experience crashes, ranging from on worldgen to hours/days into a session. These usually destroy my character save and do weird things to my world save.

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**Author:** ![Cacophony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@Cacophony](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cacophony)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/12 "2013-11-11T13:15:44Z")

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I’m experiencing similar crashes, but it’s almost always while I’m moving through cities, and moving quickly in a vehicle seems to increase the odds considerably. Beyond that, it’s just a plain closing/crashing of the game with no messages or prompts.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/13 "2013-11-11T15:14:12Z")

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Cacophony, I think we have a trace here.  
It just happened to me again, while I was exploring a city. I was going northward and then it just closed again. Maybe world gen is bugging? I don’t know.

EDIT:  
Okay, I uploaded the save file. Leave the house I am in and go north, it then has a good chance to crash

[http://www.file-upload.net/download-8280986/save.zip.html](http://www.file-upload.net/download-8280986/save.zip.html)

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/14 "2013-11-11T17:45:37Z")

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[quote=“Rookie, post:13, topic:3908”]Cacophony, I think we have a trace here.  
It just happened to me again, while I was exploring a city. I was going northward and then it just closed again. Maybe world gen is bugging? I don’t know.

EDIT:  
Okay, I uploaded the save file. Leave the house I am in and go north, it then has a good chance to crash

[http://www.file-upload.net/download-8280986/save.zip.html[/quote]](http://www.file-upload.net/download-8280986/save.zip.html%5B/quote%5D)

Well, “marvin” first thing I’m noticing is the save file is a tad on the large side, are you running out of memory by chance?

EDIT: I wandered all the way to a mine to the north, no crash. Looks like it’s something with your system. I’m not sure though.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/15 "2013-11-11T18:23:33Z")

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Sigh, it’s tedious. Didn’t happen for me for a while, too. It’s apparently REALLY random.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/16 "2013-11-11T18:38:50Z")

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[quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:14, topic:3908”][quote=“Rookie, post:13, topic:3908”]Cacophony, I think we have a trace here.  
It just happened to me again, while I was exploring a city. I was going northward and then it just closed again. Maybe world gen is bugging? I don’t know.

EDIT:  
Okay, I uploaded the save file. Leave the house I am in and go north, it then has a good chance to crash

[http://www.file-upload.net/download-8280986/save.zip.html[/quote]](http://www.file-upload.net/download-8280986/save.zip.html%5B/quote%5D)

Well, “marvin” first thing I’m noticing is the save file is a tad on the large side, are you running out of memory by chance?

EDIT: I wandered all the way to a mine to the north, no crash. Looks like it’s something with your system. I’m not sure though.[/quote]

If it’s “master.gsav” that’s HUGE, there’s been some trouble with the save function writing out millions of the same artifact. Could be a memory issue; there’s a fix [PR’d](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/4281).

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**Author:** ![Lexx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df705f/32.png) [@Lexx](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lexx)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/17 "2013-12-30T13:05:34Z")

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I am getting the same issue but the save is below 700kbs. It can happen a few seconds or a few minutes into a game. Just walking about barely into the game and the whole game closes without an error message. This is using the current stable release for me for windows.

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**Author:** ![Faldegort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/df788c/32.png) [@Faldegort](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Faldegort)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/random-crashing-0-9/3908/18 "2014-01-25T16:37:56Z")

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Hi people.

Same situation in V 0.9 when trying to explore the city.

I had vey random crashes, but very scarse (non afecting gameplay more that saving when sleeping). Now is different:  
Im in a car in the center of the city. Going to the non explored parts ends alwais in a chash (tested with car and at foot)

As the other´s said: game.cpp[5767]: add\_zombie: there’s already a monster at 120,30

Regards!