# "quit without saving" option

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [July 15, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777 "2019-07-15T15:27:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Bio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bio/32/6690_2.png) [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/1 "2019-07-15T15:27:03Z")

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It can be a real nuisance sometimes when I start a new character just to bug test some things I think might not be working, then have to close the game and re-open it so I didn’t screw up the map or give an unfair advantage by things I spawned just to test out.  
I think an option to quit without saving would be really nice

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**Author:** ![Fris0uman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fris0uman/32/8607_2.png) [@Fris0uman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fris0uman)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/2 "2019-07-15T15:35:25Z")

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there is already: Debug menu\>Q

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**Author:** ![KiBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kiboy/32/5863_2.png) [@KiBoy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KiBoy)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/3 "2019-07-15T15:44:53Z")

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You can always terminate the game process too. It’s what I do in case something happens.

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**Author:** ![stebbiness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stebbiness/32/6569_2.png) [@stebbiness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/stebbiness)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/4 "2019-07-15T15:47:36Z")

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Press the home button on android.

It even works before I watch the last moments of my character’s life.

Edit: But then I’m sure you play on a Laptop or PC.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/5 "2019-07-15T17:44:39Z")

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As people have pointed out, there are ways to do this, _but none of them are officially supported and they can break your game_.  
If you want to do this safely you need to back up your save file before you start.

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**Author:** ![Bio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bio/32/6690_2.png) [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/6 "2019-07-16T02:34:46Z")

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ah yes I just found that out a minute ago, that debug has a quit to menu feature. I’ve been avoiding using it like the plague so I so never really took much notice of it.

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**Author:** ![QuietCoyote](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/quietcoyote/32/6451_2.png) [@QuietCoyote](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/QuietCoyote)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/7 "2019-07-16T02:38:12Z")

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What kevin said, but also it would just empower save scumming (or appropriatly named save abuse), but what you do with your game is not a problem to everyone else I guess

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**Author:** ![KiBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kiboy/32/5863_2.png) [@KiBoy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KiBoy)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/8 "2019-07-16T11:15:31Z")

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To add a little on what Kevin said, once when I was really pissed off about losing my character, due to savescumming I somehow managed to CLONE the zombies around me.

It’s not fun when 20 hulks are playing football with you, and it takes a while to die in Heavy Survivor gear.

If you wanna quit, make a copy of your save beforehand. Just so you don’t screw your savefile even further.

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**Author:** ![Bio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bio/32/6690_2.png) [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/9 "2019-07-16T16:08:45Z")

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I guess that’s karma for you.

However where is the save file? Its hard to differentiate between map files, data files, and actual save data

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**Author:** ![Malkeus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/malkeus/32/12037_2.png) [@Malkeus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malkeus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/10 "2019-07-16T16:28:19Z")

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Each character in a world gets it’s own hash code (example: #VGltb3RoeSBCb3dkZW4). Each character has a memory (.seen) the .0.0 bits correlate with the map data (o.0.0). Each characters inventory and stats are stored in (.sav). The main directory map data is overmap tiles, with the data for each tile stored in the corresponding directory in the map directory.  
This is my understanding of the save directory, if I’ve gotten something wrong I hope someone will speak up.

edit: Everything can be opened in any text editor, I suggest notepad++ for good formatting. The characters name should be pretty close to the top of the .sav files.

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**Author:** ![Eggelstein](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/eggelstein/32/6849_2.png) [@Eggelstein](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Eggelstein)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/quit-without-saving-option/20777/11 "2019-09-15T23:29:37Z")

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I’m pretty sure the launcher has an option to backup save files. I’ve never used it myself, so idk.