# Questions about Carts(Or 1x1 vehicles)
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [November 12, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424 "2018-11-12T02:57:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Krisu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Krisu)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/1 "2018-11-12T02:57:02Z")
Im wondering whats the best armor to add to it so it wont be easily destroyed. Also, will it ever get too heavy? My cart is basically a welding cart but with an actual storage battery instead of a small one.
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### Author:  [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/2 "2018-11-12T03:29:56Z")
Military composite plate is the best armor I believe. At one tile it probably won’t get too heavy. Obviously you should also use a heavy duty frame for durability if that’s your only concern.
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### Author:  [@Unawares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Unawares)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/3 "2018-11-12T06:44:49Z")
There is a noticeable weight trade off though, if you’re going to be dragging it around. How strong is your character? My carts can quickly become too heavy to move, if I’m collecting heavy stuff like batteries and heavy plating. Less dense stuff tends to work fine if I keep the cart itself light.
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### Author:  [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/4 "2018-11-12T06:49:06Z")
That does bring up another point. Casters or somesuch makes it easier to drag at heavier weights in addition to reducing the noise it generates.
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### Author:  [@Krisu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Krisu)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/5 "2018-11-12T12:36:42Z")
I have casters and 13 strength
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### Author:  [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/6 "2018-11-12T13:38:40Z")
Yeah you should be fine. Unless you fill it with lead and gold you’ll run out of volume well before strength becomes an issue.
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### Author:  [@Unawares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Unawares)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 8:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/7 "2018-11-13T08:43:18Z")
> [@Trigon](#):
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> That does bring up another point. Casters or somesuch makes it easier to drag at heavier weights in addition to reducing the noise it generates.
That’s interesting, I had no idea they did that. Are there any other parts that act like that? I’m not sure what to look for in the part descriptions for the effect.
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### Author:  [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/8 "2018-11-13T13:23:16Z")
I don’t believe so. Mufflers reduce engine noise but that’s not necessary for a dragging vehicle. The ease of dragging is just my experience but I haven’t rigorously tested it so I could be wrong on that, but my character definitely seems to have less trouble with a fully loaded cart with wheels than the same cart without.
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### Author:  [@Unawares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Unawares)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/questions-about-carts-or-1x1-vehicles/17424/9 "2018-11-13T13:40:43Z")
Definitely need some kind of wheels yes, I tend to use casters on mine too. But I’ve been meaning to try some other options (wheelbarrow wheel, etc).