# \[Question\] Z-Levels

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084 "2013-11-18T19:37:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![duke455](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/duke455/32/217_2.png) [@duke455](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duke455)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/1 "2013-11-18T19:37:15Z")

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I would like somebody to explain what z-levels are.  
I heard of them on many topics but never really understand what really are (or are planned to be).  
Thank you very much!

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**Author:** ![Sanarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Sanarr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanarr)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/2 "2013-11-18T19:44:56Z")

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Z-levels means “Z coordinate level” or height above/below ground. Implementing Z-levels would give us multi-story buildings, deep dungeons etc. Maybe a possibility to dig yourself underground house (or fortress… dwarf fortress ) ). Or meet some kind of flying (or underground dwelling) Zed.

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**Author:** ![duke455](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/duke455/32/217_2.png) [@duke455](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duke455)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/3 "2013-11-18T19:46:57Z")

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I got it now! Thank you very much, when implemented I will start to use dressers as bombs 😃

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/4 "2013-11-18T20:19:29Z")

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I wonder what happens if you leave a live grenade inside a container…

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**Author:** ![duke455](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/duke455/32/217_2.png) [@duke455](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/duke455)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/5 "2013-11-18T20:23:31Z")

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![](http://www.eddieoneverything.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/the_more_you_know2.jpg)

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/6 "2013-11-18T21:14:58Z")

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If you want a good example of a system we’ll be looking at, take a look at the Dwarf Fortress implementation (though we’ll be shooting for a more “fortress mode” style implementation then their adventure mode style).

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**Author:** ![HS1342](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/hs1342/32/190_2.png) [@HS1342](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HS1342)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/7 "2013-11-18T21:27:16Z")

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[move]MAN I DON’T KNOW HOW LONG I CAN WAIT FOR THEM Z-LEVELS CAUSE I’M GOING TO BUILD SO MUCH F\*\*\*ED UP S\*\*\* AND THEN BLOW IT UP[/move]

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/8 "2013-11-18T21:54:02Z")

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> [@HS1342](#):
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> MAN I DON’T KNOW HOW LONG I CAN WAIT FOR THEM Z-LEVELS CAUSE I’M GOING TO BUILD SO MUCH F_ **ED UP S** _ AND THEN BLOW IT UP

MO FUGGIN TREEHOUSES

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/9 "2013-11-18T22:43:08Z")

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Suddenly I have a mental image of destroying a town in CDDA and watching it all fall down from the distance…

…Are we gonna get hills?

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**Author:** ![vultures](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/vultures/32/69_2.png) [@vultures](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vultures)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/question-z-levels/4084/10 "2013-11-20T06:47:17Z")

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You can think of it this way:  
With no Z-levels you can lose your golden ring to some gooey precipice in the ground. Once you manage to get down there, your precious has vanished for all eternity, stuck in-between the debugger’s bits and bytes.  
With Superb Awesome Z-Levels (SAZ-L) you get to drop your ring, but you can never lose it. Nevertheless it shines more brightly so you’re blinded with the wish to explore the depths of the Mighty Z-Dungeon. However, the goblin that took your ring was a mere toothpick for the Great Wyrm nesting there, so your Z-Levels actually are:  
Great\_Wyrm\>\>Your\_Pile\_Of\_Bones\>\>Goblin\_Toothpick\>\>GoldWish

And yet another trivia - if Sauron had no Z-Levels, Frodo could’ve been the new Dark Lord. 🙂