# Problem of the Shoddy Laser Rifle
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858
**Category:** The Bunker
**Tags:** mod
**Created:** [February 3, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858 "2021-02-03T04:55:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
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### Author:  [@Gang\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gang_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/1 "2021-02-03T04:55:20Z")
Hello Everyone,
I’m facing a big problem for making Shoddy Laser Rifle. I got all materials but the ‘Laser optics’. I had searched in Lab, electronic shop, Gun shop, etc but still could not get one. Bros, How and where could I get one please.
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### Author:  [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 5:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/2 "2021-02-03T05:14:00Z")
Laser optics is an aftershock specific item, it’s ID is “afs\_optics\_3” and it is found as part of “afs\_advanced\_optics\_scrapgroup” which (according to the mod) should be added to the “science” and “tools\_robotics” item groups from vanilla CDDA.
So, not Gun shop but you should be good looking in Labs. The RNG might just not have been with you.
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### Author:  [@Gang\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gang_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 6:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/3 "2021-02-03T06:46:14Z")
Thank you Bro, that means I have to kill and loot scientist zombie?the Lab what I mentioned is a small Lab( Green colored L shown on the map)
A funny point here, I make Shoddy laser rifle for killing weak Zombies.if I could break in the huge Lab and clear the zombie inside, that means I got high power weapon. BUT Now, I am just using staff sling to kill normal zombie. Facing the Army zombie or hulk zombie, I only can run run and run. So poor
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### Author:  [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 7:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/4 "2021-02-03T07:37:12Z")
any particular reason you want the laser rifle specifically?
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### Author:  [@Gang\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gang_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 9:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/5 "2021-02-03T09:01:10Z")
The reason is the shoddy laser rifle ammo only need battery then I could charge the battery by the solar!
Any weapon suggestions for me please, I’m now only using staff sling
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### Author:  [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/6 "2021-02-03T10:32:59Z")
If you get lucky, you might find a non-shoddy laser rifle before you get the parts to make your shoddy one. I agree that not needing ammunition can be a real plus, at least until you can harvest some turrets for their ammo.
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### Author:  [@Gang\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gang_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/7 "2021-02-03T12:21:57Z")
Thank you Bro. Is that Laser rifle drop from Army zombie or robot ?
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### Author:  [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/8 "2021-02-03T12:43:44Z")
Pretty sure I got a laser pistol from a zombie soldier drop. Not sure about laser rifle, that might have been from a military base. I use them with a UPS with a car battery mod, it runs out fairly fast on burst fire mode so I keep a whole lot of car batteries installed on my vehicle to recharge.
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### Author:  [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/9 "2021-02-03T12:58:01Z")
it’d be a VERY rare drop if you did find one, and you’d have to use a UPS for either or yeah. even with solar powered weaponry you’d need to be veeery careful with your ‘ammunition’ power-wise.
early game, if you’ve got a sling staff, might as well go for a gun shop on the outskirts of town if you’re lucky, or find a shelter with a hidden room.
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### Author:  [@Paul\_Blay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paul_Blay)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/10 "2021-02-03T13:16:57Z")
> [@zantanzuken](#):
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> it’d be a VERY rare drop if you did find one
For laser pistols, I didn’t just find one I found TWO. 😃
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### Author:  [@Rot](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rot)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/11 "2021-02-03T14:53:00Z")
If I remember correctly you can also make a rifle out of the fusion blaster arm CBM, maybe try looking for those as well?
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### Author:  [@Gang\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gang_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/12 "2021-02-03T16:01:59Z")
Oh dear, you are the lucky one 🙂
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### Author:  [@Gang\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gang_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/13 "2021-02-03T16:04:32Z")
I had been playing CDDA for a long time, but never tried to install any CBM. Seems I need to try and find some tips on wiki 😃
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### Author:  [@Sirbab](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sirbab)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/14 "2021-02-03T21:33:45Z")
The plasma arm cannon was both deprecated to aftershock, then subsequently removed from craft and spawn lists as far as I know. There are actual plasma and laser weapons you can find in military locations like outposts and lab magazines.
Edit: I found my go to side arm v29 laser pistol in am outpost.
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### Author:  [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/15 "2021-02-03T22:01:00Z")
the one place i know for sure you can find a laser weapon… though it may be a bit tricky… if you have the cataclysm++ mod installed, there’s a particular lab bunker you can find with one ‘evelyn rose, bio hunter’ residing in it, you’ll know you’ve found it if you see a bunch of augmented abominations fighting a bunch of zombie augmented abominations.
if you can somehow sneak into the building and down below, evelyn will clear out a majority of the zombies (she’s got a bitchin laser gun, but it uses nuclear batteries)
theres ALWAYS a laser rifle there, as well as an autodoc, autoclave and autoclave pouches. might be a good way to start getting into CBM’s, especially if you kill the augmented abominations up top and disect em~
also lots of military zombies, so military gear (though its dirty.)
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### Author:  [@Rot](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rot)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/16 "2021-02-04T15:49:21Z")
That’s just disappointing. I remember that was my go-to weapon when I found that cbm.
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### Author:  [@Gang\_Wolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Gang_Wolf)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/17 "2021-02-05T15:23:13Z")
Thank you zantanzuken, I didn’t install that mod. I’m now trying to kill those army zombie but I’m running out of ammo.LOL. They are too many. If I can’t beat them, then I am going to join them.
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### Author:  [@We\_are\_Alpharius48](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/We_are_Alpharius48)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/problem-of-the-shoddy-laser-rifle/25858/18 "2021-02-06T20:11:55Z")
I mean if you’re looking for a weapon to use for a vehicle turret I recommend the fusion Buster rifle you make from the arm Cannon CBM. Aside from the ridiculous Splash damage capable of killing yourself it’s really good against hordes at long range.