# Potatoes are NOT vegatables

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [March 17, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481 "2014-03-17T11:47:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Catfoodbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@Catfoodbob](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Catfoodbob)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/1 "2014-03-17T11:47:15Z")

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The bad trait for hates vegetables, it counts beans and potatoes, which really are starches which dont count :(… Cuz they really are not vegetables

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**Author:** ![Chiko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/chiko/32/3238_2.png) [@Chiko](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Chiko)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 12:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/2 "2014-03-17T12:28:33Z")

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Tomatoes are fruits but veggie haters still hate them. I had no idea about this, but I know a lot of people that consider them veggies, including myself. xD

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**Author:** ![halberdsturgeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@halberdsturgeon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/halberdsturgeon)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/3 "2014-03-17T13:11:55Z")

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It’s a culinary vegetable. Its botanical classification is irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Cherry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cherry/32/230_2.png) [@Cherry](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cherry)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/4 "2014-03-17T13:26:46Z")

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So is a sweet potato a fruit or a vegetable?  
They suck either way.  
But seriously beans are vegetables?  
Are peanuts vegetables?  
Dear god.

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**Author:** ![halberdsturgeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@halberdsturgeon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/halberdsturgeon)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/5 "2014-03-17T13:42:42Z")

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Culinarily, yes.

> **[List of vegetables](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_culinary_vegetables)**
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> This is a list of plants that have a culinary role as vegetables. "Vegetable" can be used in several senses, including culinary, botanical and legal. This list includes botanical fruits such as pumpkins, and does not include herbs, spices, cereals and most culinary fruits and culinary nuts. Edible fungi are not included in this list. Legal vegetables are defined for regulatory, tax and other purposes. An example would include the tomato, which is a botanical berry, but a culinary, vegetable accor...

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Mirrsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Sean\_Mirrsen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sean_Mirrsen)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/6 "2014-03-17T14:00:52Z")

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Peanut butter sandwiches, however (without jam) for some reason count as fruit. In the game, I mean.

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/7 "2014-03-17T16:01:19Z")

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I hate vegetables, including tomatoes. I love potatoes.

[me=StopSignal]leaves in the night[/me]

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**Author:** ![9600bauds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/b9e5f3/32.png) [@9600bauds](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/9600bauds)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/8 "2014-03-18T17:47:34Z")

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> [@Sean Mirrsen](#):
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> Peanut butter sandwiches, however (without jam) for some reason count as fruit. In the game, I mean.

For whatever reason, Peanut Butter was counted as fruit, so I left that in. Then again, brioches were marked as veggies…

Currently the only time where something being a vegetable or not matters is if the player has the “Hates Vegetables” trait, so rather than technical definitions, comestibles should be classified around what would an average Joe that can’t stand veggies refuse to eat.

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**Author:** ![CIB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cib/32/903_2.png) [@CIB](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CIB)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/9 "2014-03-18T18:07:26Z")

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… I don’t think there’s such a thing as “an average joe who hates vegetables”. I love some kinds of vegetables and hate others. It’s the same for literally every person I know.

Defining “vegetable” as “stuff that some people don’t like” strikes me as pretty difficult. I guess we could go for “stuff with lots of bitters and dietary fibers”, but that’s not really the same as vegetables at all, and tomatoes don’t fall into that category either.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Mirrsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Sean\_Mirrsen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sean_Mirrsen)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/10 "2014-03-18T18:15:34Z")

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> [@9600bauds](#):
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> [quote=“Sean Mirrsen, post:6, topic:5481”]Peanut butter sandwiches, however (without jam) for some reason count as fruit. In the game, I mean.

For whatever reason, Peanut Butter was counted as fruit, so I left that in. Then again, brioches were marked as veggies…

Currently the only time where something being a vegetable or not matters is if the player has the “Hates Vegetables” trait, so rather than technical definitions, comestibles should be classified around what would an average Joe that can’t stand veggies refuse to eat.[/quote]Regular peanut butter (in jars) is counted as Junk Food. I would expect the regular PB sandwich to be that as well.

We should probably have something like a Nut Allergy trait. Can’t eat anything that might contain even traces of nuts, because that will cause anaphylactic shock and death.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/11 "2014-03-18T18:24:59Z")

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> [@CIB](#):
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> … I don’t think there’s such a thing as “an average joe who hates vegetables”. I love some kinds of vegetables and hate others. It’s the same for literally every person I know.

Does that mean I’m weird because I like all vegetables?

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**Author:** ![juliawang87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@juliawang87](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/juliawang87)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/12 "2014-03-19T03:12:11Z")

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The one I don’t get – worse than potatoes – is that _cornbread_ counts as a vegetable.

I mean, at that point you ought to call potato chips veggies, too. But, despite the eye-rolling, I do not think it’s worth too much complaint because there’s such a huge variety of non-vegetable items to eat (including ever-present animals to hunt and cook), that the trait is virtually free points.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/13 "2014-03-19T04:21:37Z")

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If we’re going for “stuff average joe hates” instead of “opposite of vegetarian”, it should probably be “hates non-processed food”, but we don’t have a flag for that 😕

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**Author:** ![Cat09](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cat09/32/285_2.png) [@Cat09](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cat09)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/14 "2014-03-31T23:17:05Z")

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to clarify, this could be split into nutritional / culinary / botanical categories… but as for preferences, that would need to be assigned at chargen. you could create a character personality complete with food likes/dislikes, which would have an in game effect on enjoyability depending on what foods you enter. categories are kind of insufficient at this point to do say “nuts” or “melons” or “sweet” or “savory”

The chargen setting format could be expanded for more personality quirks as well.

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**Author:** ![GlyphGryph](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/glyphgryph/32/847_2.png) [@GlyphGryph](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GlyphGryph)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/potatoes-are-not-vegatables/5481/15 "2014-04-01T00:44:12Z")

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Potatoes and tomatos are both vegetables. All fruits are vegetables. I mean I don’t see anyone arguing eggplants or squash aren’t vegetables, despite them being fruits. Grains and nuts are also vegetables (AND fruits).

Potatoes are just root vegetables.

The trait should clearly be called “Consummate Carnivore” and just be anything-without-meat-is-bad. 😃