# Post Threshold Mutations **URL:** \ **Category:** The Bunker\ **Created:** [December 26, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431 "2014-12-26T03:33:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Taikei\_no\_Yuurei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Taikei\_no\_Yuurei](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Taikei_no_Yuurei)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/1 "2014-12-26T03:33:10Z")
So, easy little question. Can you get post threshold mutations (after having gone past the threshold) via normal mutagen, or do you need to shoot up with your threshold specific mutagen/serum to have a chance of rolling those? ---
**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/2 "2014-12-26T03:35:21Z")
> [@Taikei no Yuurei](#): > > So, easy little question. Can you get post threshold mutations (after having gone past the threshold) via normal mutagen, or do you need to shoot up with your threshold specific mutagen/serum to have a chance of rolling those? Yes, orals will work fine for post-thresh once you’ve breached. ---
**Author:** ![TheWumpus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thewumpus/32/263_2.png) [@TheWumpus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheWumpus)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/3 "2014-12-26T03:52:59Z")
> [@KA101](#): > > Yes, orals will work fine for post-thresh once you’ve breached. Forgive the derail, but that sounds like some sort of kinky whale porn. ---
**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/4 "2014-12-26T04:08:16Z")
Not the first time that’s happened here and probably not the last. ---
**Author:** ![BigLie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@BigLie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BigLie)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/5 "2014-12-26T20:29:32Z")
> [@KA101](#): > > Not the first time that’s happened here and probably not the last. Yeah, talk about running through a town and fisting all the children for… I don’t remember for what. ---
**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/6 "2014-12-27T01:14:44Z")
> [@BigLie](#): > > [quote=“KA101, post:4, topic:8431”]Not the first time that’s happened here and probably not the last. Yeah, talk about running through a town and fisting all the children for… I don’t remember for what.[/quote] I think it was for testing something. However, if you’d be so kind to look up “children fisting”… ---
**Author:** ![Rhodri](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rhodri/32/342_2.png) [@Rhodri](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rhodri)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/7 "2014-12-27T03:03:40Z")
> [@BigLie](#): > > [quote=“KA101, post:4, topic:8431”]Not the first time that’s happened here and probably not the last. Yeah, talk about running through a town and fisting all the children for… I don’t remember for what.[/quote] To see if I got more skilled? ---
**Author:** ![123456789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/bcef8e/32.png) [@123456789](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/123456789)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/8 "2014-12-27T03:47:44Z")
On the topic of post threshold mutations: Are there any new ones that are more powerful or useful? I’ve noticed some very interesting new ones with the new activate-able abilities, but I still haven’t tried them all out and the wiki doesn’t seem to have them all listed. For exampleslime post thresh has the ability to create clones, rat can now burrow through walls (albeit very slowly), chimera had a tail whip, cephalopod had a shell it could go under. Any interesting ones that I missed? I usually avoid mutations because I find most of them to be more of an inconvenient and none of the mutations ever seemed overly useful to me. Also how does hibernate work? I remember seeing that one once. ---
**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/9 "2014-12-27T04:04:41Z")
Combat tails only roll the DX+skill check one in three times. Activate them to hold your tail in attack position, draining stamina (hunger/fatigue IIRC) and forgoing any dodge bonus you may have gotten from a Thick Tail, but rolling the attack every turn. Hiding in your Roomy Shell is basically a portable, armored, tent/rollmat combo. You can’t do much when in it though. Rat burrowing is pretty much a more efficient pickaxe for lateral digging; construction requirements are JSON’d so I’m not sure how to have it check traits. Slimesprings are cute and you should totally have some. 🙂 Hibernate was rigged to let you sleep for 10 days at a stretch, but it needs some maintenance and nobody seems to use it, so back-burner. :-/ ---
**Author:** ![nickspaceman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nickspaceman/32/385_2.png) [@nickspaceman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nickspaceman)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 12:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/10 "2015-01-01T00:22:22Z")
when was this suff added? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/post-threshold-mutations/8431/11 "2015-01-01T00:30:36Z")
A while ago,at least a month or so.