# Playing with cursor keys and ISO tileset

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-with-cursor-keys-and-iso-tileset/12494>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [September 4, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-with-cursor-keys-and-iso-tileset/12494 "2016-09-04T15:38:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![yello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yello](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/yello)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-with-cursor-keys-and-iso-tileset/12494/1 "2016-09-04T15:38:35Z")

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Hi!

Ok, I have a notebook without a numpad, vikeys sucks (I´m german so z and y are swapped, but vikeys suck anyways) and so I´m happily playing with my cursor keys all the time. Recently I tried an iso tileset and I instantly fell in love with it.  
Problem is, with the cursor keys and isometric view you miss one field after the other because you´re moving basically diagonally only.  
OK, I thought let´s experiment with the keys swapping menu and put up, down, l and r to SE, SW, NE and NW and that´ll be it.  
_Nope_  
Since those are global AND you first have to remove left, right, up and down before you can re-assign them I first removed global options a to h. Then, I re-assigned b,d,f,h to L,R,Up,Down and I could move around like I used to, being able to walk every tile… 45° shifted, but OK.  
Problem is, now I can´t navigate the menus anymore!!

So, my first basic question is: How do you guys use ISO tilesets with computers that have no numpad?  
And the other would be: How can I keep my new keys like I changed them PLUS navigate the menus again?

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**Author:** ![Chezzo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/chezzo/32/429_2.png) [@Chezzo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Chezzo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-with-cursor-keys-and-iso-tileset/12494/2 "2016-09-05T18:29:11Z")

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You can rebind the menu keybindings I think, I remember I had to do it when serving Twitch Plays CDDA.

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**Author:** ![yello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecae2f/32.png) [@yello](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/yello)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-with-cursor-keys-and-iso-tileset/12494/3 "2016-09-05T19:46:26Z")

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OK, but re-assigning keys to up,dn,l and r doesn´t help. the character will move on the map, but no menu works then.

Hmmm… there must be anybody here who plays iso tiles or who knows a bit about the key mapping…

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**Author:** ![StopSignal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/stopsignal/32/1923_2.png) [@StopSignal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/StopSignal)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/playing-with-cursor-keys-and-iso-tileset/12494/4 "2016-09-07T03:29:08Z")

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There are some keys to move the “view”. What about replacing those?