# Pissing off the RNG in a big way

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pissing-off-the-rng-in-a-big-way/333>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [March 4, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pissing-off-the-rng-in-a-big-way/333 "2013-03-04T18:43:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![iceball3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c89c15/32.png) [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pissing-off-the-rng-in-a-big-way/333/21 "2013-03-06T19:59:16Z")

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> [@DTF](#):
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> [quote=“Asra, post:14, topic:333”]Eh temperature is ridiculous if you want to even bother going into melee, I think. Since you have to heavily burden your torso area if you want anything done.

No you don’t. I have encumberance 3 on my torso - my dodge and melee skills are around 6, so the -3 penalty isnt all that bad. By winter you probably have found at least one silencer and a rifle so you don’t even need to bother with melee anymore… or (if playing pure melee) you’ll have such high skills that -3 doesnt affect you that much.[/quote]Though, it’s worth noting the attack speed is reduced anyway, unless skill affects attack speed directly? I think only unarmed could be managable with skill alone at truly tremendous encumbrances.  
Though wait, why are you only at 6 each for both as late as winter? Unless you’re using uncapped rust, which is what I do, as I play as, I get to 6-9 melee/dodge within 11 days.

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**Author:** ![DTF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@DTF](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DTF)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pissing-off-the-rng-in-a-big-way/333/22 "2013-03-06T21:25:40Z")

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Switched to firearms and never really used melee after that.

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**Author:** ![Jihelu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@Jihelu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jihelu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/pissing-off-the-rng-in-a-big-way/333/23 "2013-03-06T21:48:16Z")

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> [@DTF](#):
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> Switched to firearms and never really used melee after that.

Ikr?

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