# Oxidizer powder and things

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [October 11, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468 "2013-10-11T21:06:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/1 "2013-10-11T21:06:38Z")

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Yeah, where can I find that stuff?

Also, kinetic bullet pullers should be craftable. I’m having trouble finding those…

Gun/bullet smith should also be a profession.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/2 "2013-10-11T21:07:53Z")

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You can turn it into gunpowder to get infinite ammo out of your spent casings

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/3 "2013-10-11T21:09:32Z")

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Whoops, meant “where”.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/4 "2013-10-11T21:12:04Z")

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A well you need to craft it; i think it needs two units of bleach

(it could spawn in labs and scienitst thoug)

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/5 "2013-10-11T21:13:09Z")

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Eh… not showing up.

Skillz needed?

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/6 "2013-10-11T21:14:10Z")

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The recipe is pretty hardcore you need an 8 in cooking

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/7 "2013-10-11T21:23:24Z")

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FFFFFFFffffffffff…

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/8 "2013-10-11T21:23:44Z")

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Yeah, the really advanced chemistry synthesis stuff requires a pretty high cooking skill.

I guess I could add the oxidizer and such to item\_groups as well.

[PR time!](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/3578)

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**Author:** ![Miloch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/miloch/32/1339_2.png) [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/9 "2013-10-12T03:18:37Z")

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Personally I think we need to move chemistry over to it’s own skill.

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/10 "2013-10-12T03:31:53Z")

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> [@Miloch](#):
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> Personally I think we need to move chemistry over to it’s own skill.

Seconded. Chemistry and cooking should be different skills.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/11 "2013-10-12T03:34:41Z")

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> [@i2amroy](#):
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> Seconded. Chemistry and cooking should be different skills.

I agree. I agree a hundred times over.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/12 "2013-10-12T03:43:09Z")

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Dispute.

Are there enough low-level Chem recipes to let people skill up without havig to find all the books?

(I kinda like being able to make Mutagen after cooking for a few seasons, and I’m sick of people taking the fun shit away. Thanks.)

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**Author:** ![Miloch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/miloch/32/1339_2.png) [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/13 "2013-10-12T03:59:17Z")

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It OP and you could adjust the order. Right now you have cooking as low level and chemistry as high level. You’d adjust the level requirements to be chemistry. So the overall level would probably be lower but you wouldn’t get the massive skill boost from all the cooking you do.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/14 "2013-10-12T05:13:24Z")

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I figure if we broke it off into a separate skill we’d review and tweak all the recipes that it would claim.

End result: being a master chef doesn’t turn you into a master chemist and vice versa, while also making chemistry recipes more accessible in general, but under the auspices of a new skill.

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**Author:** ![Miloch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/miloch/32/1339_2.png) [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 5:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/15 "2013-10-12T05:32:22Z")

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Exactly, Rivet.  
KA101, don’t immediately assume the worst about a suggestion. Geeze. Try to think about it a bit before you immediately disagree with it. The devs here have more then shown that they can implement things in an intelligent manner.

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 7:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/16 "2013-10-12T07:11:55Z")

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Yeah, if it was split off into a new skill a lot of the recipes would drop down to only requiring 2-6 skill instead of 6-10. Plus as we add more chem recipes then the point will become more moot.

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 7:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/17 "2013-10-12T07:14:52Z")

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> [@i2amroy](#):
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> Yeah, if it was split off into a new skill a lot of the recipes would drop down to only requiring 2-6 skill instead of 6-10. Plus as we add more chem recipes then the point will become more moot.

Well, I’ve been suggesting splitting it off for some time before I made a chemistry set. Back then it was ‘meh, it’s only mutagen, it can be cooking’ and now with Rivet’s excellent additions, we have a lot more reasons to do it.

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**Author:** ![Miloch](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/miloch/32/1339_2.png) [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/18 "2013-10-12T07:39:35Z")

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I think we’re going to need more tabs in the crafting menus.

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 12:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/19 "2013-10-12T12:52:41Z")

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> [@Miloch](#):
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> I think we’re going to need more tabs in the crafting menus.

I suggested it multiple times…

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oxidizer-powder-and-things/3468/20 "2013-10-12T13:01:31Z")

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Damn it guys, I asked for oxidizer powder. Not this…

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