# Oversize Item(s)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oversize-item-s/22976>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [March 10, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oversize-item-s/22976 "2020-03-10T23:53:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![AseaHeru](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/aseaheru/32/8_2.png) [@AseaHeru](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AseaHeru)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oversize-item-s/22976/1 "2020-03-10T23:53:07Z")

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While playing build 10402 I noted that a single ‘Unused .22 casing’ has a volume of .25L, which is… Well, as it stands .223 casings are in at .01L, which seems to be standard for “casings smaller than a shotguns”, aswell as being larger than some of the guns that chambers it.  
In a similar vein, some tweaking may be required for the amount adding a mod increases the size of a firearm.

In any case, has anyone else noted particularly egregiously bulky items?

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**Author:** ![khearn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/khearn/32/7903_2.png) [@khearn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/khearn)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oversize-item-s/22976/2 "2020-03-11T18:41:54Z")

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Some firearms have rather generous chambers, so it’ not unusual for a casing to expand some when fired. Up to .25L might be just a tad excessive, though.

Oh, wait, it’s an unused casing. That’s completely different. Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![Firebrand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/firebrand/32/6020_2.png) [@Firebrand](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/oversize-item-s/22976/3 "2020-03-11T18:47:19Z")

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From what I understand, a lot of items in the game have had their weight and/or volume assigned through ballparking. It’s only a recent change that such items started to gain more appropriate parameters.

Firearms, for example, used to have rather generic volumes: M1911 used to be _exactly_ half a liter. Recently the folks at CleverRaven started doing some background work aimed at overhauling holsters and containers in general. Many small arms that used to fit in a fast draw holster no longer do because of both the holster and the firearms volume adjustments.

It’s fair to assume that many more items are to go through similar changes.