Orgasmic Music? Needs Nerf

[fishy1234555]

Lets not jump to any conclusions. As far as Im concerned I lack the ability to drag my Pick-up behind me IRL. So if i go smoke some pcp, I want to rip that truck a new asshole. Some drugs, like adrenaline, will increase metabolism, bpms, and chance of death. With these risk factors present IMO it would deter from accidental OD. So im saying some hard-stats need to be adjusted by drugs, but with less for strength and mostly perception w/intelligence buffs. OOOOHH I just had it! How about we take all hard stat buffs away and make penalty reducers. ie:PCP makes me no stronger than my maximum muscle will allow, so instead buff the strain/pain/anti-gain from lifting too much. Snorting lines makes you care less when you kill innocents but shouldn’t make you Buddha or give you knowledge you previously lacked. You shouldnt be able to install an cbm without proper int and maybe a manual?

Basically Drugs should give the buffs that hard stats offer without the hard stat modification. eg: I smoke meth–meth makes my skill rust reduce and my perception increase, maybe i read faster and run faster too. Im not suggestion perception to be less useful than the other stats, just more mentally orientated, like drugs. Unless im doin some military stimulant 'hulk’esque drug I dont want strength boosts. Just the ability to have no fucks giving about you or anybody else’s bodies.

To somehow tie this in with the MP3. Nerf 'em and give them a bonus boost when on drugs.

[Creamy_Goodness]

[quote=“Creamy Goodness, post:26, topic:6153”]I don’t think anyone here wants to see Adderall turn into a useless “feel good” drug…

The wacky statboosts are OP, though. Speed should have it’s uses, but a straight stat-boost isn’t realistic at all. Amphetamines won’t make you faster, stronger, more dextrous, more intelligent, or more perceptive. In fact, dexterity and perception should be slightly lowered due to jittery fingers and an increased focus that can prevent you noticing anything you’re not focusing on. Speed should instead nullify the malus the player is suffering from being drunk, sedated, hungry, thirsty, tired or in pain ; and maybe give a speed bonus to reading and crafting-type activities (but not to running/fighting/etc.). It should definitely be a lifesaver when you’re trying to hack your way through a thousand zombies over two days, or when a horde is hot on your trail and catching up because you’re starving and exhausting, but it should never make you better than you are when well-rested/full/slaked/sober.

As far as the OP goes, I think the +50 isn’t so bad. I wouldn’t mind if it got a minor nerf, though.[/quote]

Sure some amphetamines wont so much help stats as hinder, But coke should still get your blood rushing and focused like a mother fucker, Codeine and Xanax should maintain its very nice sedative effects, I don’t want drugs to become another alcohol, even though alcohol does help with pain

[Blackopsman9999]

Alcohol makes molotovs… How about instead of bitching over something which there is no issue for you bitch about something that matters? Or did you just run out of things to bitch about?

[fishy1234555]

Alcohol makes molotovs… How about instead of bitching over something which there is no issue for you bitch about something that matters? Or did you just run out of things to bitch about?

Promptly eats his own words.

[Creamy_Goodness]

[quote=“Blackopsman9999, post:34, topic:6153”]Alcohol makes molotovs… How about instead of bitching over something which there is no issue for you bitch about something that matters? Or did you just run out of things to bitch about?

Promptly eats his own words.[/quote]

Of course how could I forget about the mollys, but point remains mr troll a lot, not many stats are given through alcohol

[Blackopsman9999]

Neither are they given through bleach, should we buff that as well oh wise one who ignores half an object’s use?

[RAM]

I am not completely sold on the viewpoint that drugs make you happier than music. Music can be all sorts of inspirational. Forcefully induced happiness can, if recognised as such, be at odds with a self-aware type of person and have a sort of “this is not real” aftertaste that sort of spoils it…

[Creamy_Goodness]

Neither are they given through bleach, should we buff that as well oh wise one who ignores half an object’s use?

Maybe you should read before posting. My whole thread is about music being stronger than drugs alcohol etc, Im not saying things things need a buff to get crazy, but I am saying music needs a nerf when you compare it to the other forms of morale and what they give you per Item used

[Khrysanth]

As previously mentioned: morale is tied to focus. Focus is tied to learning. While that is true, I can’t see any mind-altering substance surpassing music. They might make you feel great, and certainly qualify to pass it based on the term morale, but they sure as hell aren’t going to help you focus on learning how to construct that rechargeable battery mod and recharging station.

[Creamy_Goodness]

As previously mentioned: morale is tied to focus. Focus is tied to learning. While that is true, I can’t see any mind-altering substance surpassing music. They might make you feel great, and certainly qualify to pass it based on the term morale, but they sure as hell aren’t going to help you focus on learning how to construct that rechargeable battery mod and recharging station.

Morale is those good feels, which you use to recover from your friend killing and child zombie slaying, then after your binge and recover from a crazy night you use that focus to study, at least that was my plan in college

[Blackopsman9999]

And so, yet again creamy goodness ignores everything mentioned.

[kevin.granade]

[quote=“Khrysanth, post:40, topic:6153”]As previously mentioned: morale is tied to focus. Focus is tied to learning. While that is true, I can’t see any mind-altering substance surpassing music. They might make you feel great, and certainly qualify to pass it based on the term morale, but they sure as hell aren’t going to help you focus on learning how to construct that rechargeable battery mod and recharging station.

Morale is those good feels, which you use to recover from your friend killing and child zombie slaying, then after your binge and recover from a crazy night you use that focus to study, at least that was my plan in college :)[/quote]
No, it’s not, it’s what everyone else is saying. The primary effect of morale in the game is to maintain focus that is then used for learning. Regardless of how much “good feels” you have, if it doesn’t translate into ability to concentrate/focus, it’s not what we call “morale” in the game.

[Creamy_Goodness]

[quote=“Creamy Goodness, post:41, topic:6153”][quote=“Khrysanth, post:40, topic:6153”]As previously mentioned: morale is tied to focus. Focus is tied to learning. While that is true, I can’t see any mind-altering substance surpassing music. They might make you feel great, and certainly qualify to pass it based on the term morale, but they sure as hell aren’t going to help you focus on learning how to construct that rechargeable battery mod and recharging station.

Morale is those good feels, which you use to recover from your friend killing and child zombie slaying, then after your binge and recover from a crazy night you use that focus to study, at least that was my plan in college :)[/quote]
No, it’s not, it’s what everyone else is saying. The primary effect of morale in the game is to maintain focus that is then used for learning. Regardless of how much “good feels” you have, if it doesn’t translate into ability to concentrate/focus, it’s not what we call “morale” in the game.[/quote]

No you misunderstand me I was simply making a joke. im just stating what happens in the game, read skill book, get mad at reading skill book, read good book then no longer mad at boring book, calm down gaining focus then using said focus to learn again. im not arguing that morale is used for maintaining focus or that focus used for learning, simply that the focus comes after the moral good feels, IF the focus is gone and spent before a morale binge such as drugs, alcohol, or a good book. I was just joking around over exaggerating using negative morals such as killing.

[kevin.granade]

It’s a little hard to tell when you’re joking if the point of the joke is the same thing you’ve been arguing seriously.

[Creamy_Goodness]

It’s a little hard to tell when you’re joking if the point of the joke is the same thing you’ve been arguing seriously.

I have been using drugs a lot in my references, but drugs, alcohol doesn’t need to be touched. the only thing im trying to say is mp3 players give a somewhat unbalanced morale compared to other things that do give morale

[Khrysanth]

Ignore the meaning of the word morale for now, and instead look at the purpose of the mechanic - Helping you focus your mind to learn better. For this purpose music has a high benefit in real life.

That said, listening to music while studying can distract, just like any other distraction. At worst, though, it might slow down read times. It should also hit you with the hard of hearing penalties for anything else you might hear.

[Creamy_Goodness]

[quote=“Khrysanth, post:47, topic:6153”]Ignore the meaning of the word morale for now, and instead look at the purpose of the mechanic - Helping you focus your mind to learn better. For this purpose music has a high benefit in real life.

That said, listening to music while studying can distract, just like any other distraction. At worst, though, it might slow down read times. It should also hit you with the hard of hearing penalties for anything else you might hear.[/quote]

You have some good points. like many people have mentioned it would vary from person to person. Ive always looked at morale as happiness, I mean you character does get happier when you morale goes up. but maybe morale is just too broad a term if they don’t want drugs and alcohol indirectly help study, because im always trashed when I read skill books, how I remember what I read don’t ask me.

[MisterFox]

Now you’ve done it… there’s a vibrator item that might be included in the next version.

[Khrysanth]

I honestly have no issues with that addition.

Now to get an atomic battery mod ready…

[Creamy_Goodness]

Now you’ve done it… there’s a vibrator item that might be included in the next version.

That gave me some pretty good lols the comments are funny too