# Opening Manholes Does Not Leave a Manhole Cover

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [August 19, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753 "2013-08-19T05:11:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/1 "2013-08-19T05:11:25Z")

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Exactly what it says on the tin.

Open one with a crowbar and the cover ceases to exist.

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**Author:** ![deadmerits](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/deadmerits/32/19_2.png) [@deadmerits](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deadmerits)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/2 "2013-08-19T05:41:12Z")

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Think Futurama. You insert the crowbar into the opening and it “turns off.”

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/3 "2013-08-19T05:48:29Z")

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A nice cover story, but they’re supposed to drop when opened.

At least they used to do so until recently.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/4 "2013-08-19T07:25:14Z")

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Yeah. Especially since said covers were one of the few items to have WBlock3 (or whatever it’s called now): they were Shields.

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**Author:** ![HeadWar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/headwar/32/2685_2.png) [@HeadWar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HeadWar)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/5 "2013-08-20T10:43:14Z")

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To be honest, a manhole cover would make a lousy shield, they are way too heavy.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/6 "2013-08-20T18:02:53Z")

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Fixed in git, thanks for the report.

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/7 "2013-08-20T20:39:46Z")

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Well what about having them be used to make wheels?

Bike tire  
1 man hole cover  
2 rubber hose

Regular tire (No idea what its called in game but they’re the ones on cars)  
2 man hole cover  
4 rubber hose

Wide tire  
3 man hole cover  
8 rubber hose

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/8 "2013-08-20T21:59:40Z")

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They’d be frickin’ heavy wheels, and probably a bumpy ride…but should be near-invulnerable. Interesting idea if the crafted wheel is distinct from the standard wheels.

“Improvised X Wheel”?

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/9 "2013-08-20T23:28:41Z")

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So then heavy wheels that will make your car stronger but make you slow. BALLANNCCEEE

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/10 "2013-08-21T01:48:21Z")

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Yeah, I hate the B-word too. Problem is that you’re making a wheel out of an inch-thick steel plate, last I knew. That isn’t particularly light or flexible. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/11 "2013-08-21T19:14:08Z")

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Well depending on what kind of vehicle you’re making, it might not be a problem. It’s not going to work out all that well on a bicycle, but for load-bearing non-drive wheels at the front of your zombies smasher, it might be exactly what you want.

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**Author:** ![HeadWar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/headwar/32/2685_2.png) [@HeadWar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HeadWar)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 8:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/12 "2013-08-22T08:57:55Z")

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I’ve seen wheeled excavators where each wheel position is actually two inflatable tires with a round steel plate slightly smaller than the wheels in between them. Presumably to make sure the whole thing doesn’t tip over in case of the tires going pop.

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**Author:** ![keldoclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e19b73/32.png) [@keldoclock](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/keldoclock)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-manholes-does-not-leave-a-manhole-cover/2753/13 "2013-08-22T15:16:31Z")

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> [@Kevin Granade](#):
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> on a bicycle

Yeah, that would be basically impossible, could you imagine trying to push that? You wouldn’t be able to go fast enough to not tip over!

Solid wheels belong on stuff that isn’t meant to go more than 2mph anyways, like the aforementioned excavators.