# Opening crafting menu crashes game
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [November 30, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013 "2015-11-30T19:27:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@Noctifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctifer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/1 "2015-11-30T19:27:08Z")
Experimental 0.C-7918-g744ef80 (0.C-3982 as a zip file):
Game loads and functions normally until you press the & key to open the crafting menu. It crashes saying that the run time environment shutdown the application in an unusual manner. I made multiple worlds. One with settings I usually use, another with the default settings and the third with the default settings and no mods. They all experienced the same issue.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/2 "2015-11-30T20:38:47Z")
Issue is: [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/14246](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/14246)
Since you’re the first I’ve seen to mention the bug on the forum, that means you’re one of the few to have retained the game’s default window size. Apparently if the terminal width is set at 96 or higher, the bug doesn’t occur. o3o
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### Author:  [@Noctifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctifer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/3 "2015-11-30T20:44:55Z")
Noted and applied…
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/4 "2015-11-30T21:19:13Z")
> [@Noctifer](#):
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> Noted and applied…
I’m hoping that that change was sufficient to fix it?
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### Author:  [@Noctifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctifer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/5 "2015-11-30T21:25:14Z")
Yup, increasing the with solved it.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/6 "2015-11-30T21:27:43Z")
Excellent.
I normally beef up my window size anyway. So I would’ve never discovered this bug if I hadn’t made a spur-of-the-moment decision to test something without fixing all my favored settings.
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### Author:  [@Noctifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctifer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/7 "2015-11-30T21:33:56Z")
I tested it on many version of the game and its present, at least like 5 experimentals ago, wonder why it wasn’t caught…
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/8 "2015-11-30T21:35:59Z")
Given how uselessly squashed most interface features are at the default settings, I would assume it’s because no one actually plays at the default window setting. o3o
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### Author:  [@Noctifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctifer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/9 "2015-11-30T21:52:08Z")
I play with the default terminal settings but since I don’t update very often I guess I didn’t notice it as well.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/10 "2015-11-30T21:58:11Z")
Ah. I have no idea how many people do so. owo
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### Author:  [@HopeNotToDie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HopeNotToDie)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/11 "2015-12-06T21:57:33Z")
I’m glad that there’s a workaround, but it’s still very much not ideal. If you’re using a square font (which I really recommend,) setting your width to 96 can easily make it larger than your monitor.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/12 "2015-12-06T22:15:17Z")
> [@HopeNotToDie](#):
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> I’m glad that there’s a workaround, but it’s still very much not ideal. If you’re using a square font (which I really recommend,) setting your width to 96 can easily make it larger than your monitor.
And if I recall, a recent PR fixed this.
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### Author:  [@KliPeH](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KliPeH)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2015, 10:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/13 "2015-12-07T10:45:12Z")
> [@HopeNotToDie](#):
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> I’m glad that there’s a workaround, but it’s still very much not ideal. If you’re using a square font (which I really recommend,) setting your width to 96 can easily make it larger than your monitor.
Apologies for the derail, but what kind of font are you using? I’m looking to keep the ASCII feeling still there but have the symbols square so vehicles don’t look as weird when shifted diagonally. Perhaps there’s a font list/compilation I could look into?
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/14 "2015-12-07T16:38:57Z")
The fix is in the latest experimental.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/15 "2015-12-07T16:52:36Z")
> [@Kevin Granade](#):
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> The fix is in the latest experimental.
It was inevitable.
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### Author:  [@ZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/16 "2015-12-07T19:42:35Z")
Is the the bug in 3990(or 3995)? I can’t grab the latest where I am =/
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### Author:  [@rremyroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/rremyroy)
#### Post date: [December 7, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opening-crafting-menu-crashes-game/11013/17 "2015-12-07T21:47:46Z")
> [@ZoneWizard](#):
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> Is the the bug in 3990(or 3995)? I can’t grab the latest where I am =/
Yes. The fix is in 4002 and later I think.