On Tiles and Why We Don't Have Them (But we're progressing. Thanks utunnels)

[Kaje]

Are we any closer to a tileset yet? Do we have an ETA?

[rokomata]

Frankly, I think they should focus on getting the support done instead of throwing out possible dates or estimates to satisfy our cravings. All it does is put extra pressure on them to no tangible effect in the way of making progress. It’ll be done when it’s done, right? Less pressure means more lenience and focus on the important task for the team.

[Soron]

Well, we’ve taken the first small step (of many) towards tileset support. However, we still don’t really have an ETA. The closest we do have is still “whenever someone decides to set aside the time and do it. Also, not next release.”

[rokomata]

Boy, I wish I hadn’t read the line that says ‘not next release’. That’s really bad news.

[kevin.granade]

[quote=“utunnels, post:104, topic:197”]Yeah, that needs lots of labors and time.

A quicker approach, however, is making the game more modding friendly.

For example, add some function pointers, execute them when special events happen.

void (OnGameStart)(game game); //initialize modding data
void (OnMapDraw)(game game); //when the map is being rendered
void (OnKeyPress)(game game); //optional
void (OnGameExit)(game game); //unload resources, etc[/quote]

We have a facility for this in “gamemode”. You can toggle a particular mode and it inserts various hooks.

Currently it has the following:
init()
per_turn()
pre_action()
post_action()
game_over()

These can be expanded as needed.

[utunnels]

Oh that is really cool.

[wad67]

If anyone needs some spriting done, I am more than happy to help, I have been spriting on and off for a few years and I would say my skills are passable.

I used to post on picturewars quite a bit, and I am still rather active in helping with armies.
I don’t have much of a portfolio, as most of my efforts are now on a rather broken hardrive, however I will see what I can scrape up.
I do recall having a few more files somewhere, but anyway, this is what I have for the time being.

[Stevensonz]

wow when Cataclysm get’s awesome looking sprites that will be the day… (Though I worry about it making slower systems lag)

[bubbadoo14]

The announcement needs the link to be fixed to this instead of this.

[placeybordeaux]

Well, we’ve taken the first small step (of many) towards tileset support. However, we still don’t really have an ETA. The closest we do have is still “whenever someone decides to set aside the time and do it. Also, not next release.”

Is there some write up on where this is happening and how I can help? I can take care of some files or two if someone has specificed an API to use.

Also if there is a branch where people are cleaning up the game loop I would be willing to help there, just not quite in sync with the dev team, just found this game a couple days ago.

[Stevensonz]

http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=421.15 this looked awesome but then I shed a single tear that it was on older versions only (Non-existent)… hoping new tilesets will be awesome that it can make me play for 2 days straight without sleep

[SKiPPY]

I do love how the current graphics make the player use his or her imagination to create a better picture, so I wonder if a tile set would take away from that at all.

Oh well, back to making small 15x15 pictures in hopes that someone knows how to insert them into the game

by the way, check out the Tileset Project me and a few others are working on right now, it looks promising!
The thread is probably being posted on right now, just search for “Tileset Project”.

[StopSignal]

Oh well, back to making small 15x15 pictures in hopes that someone knows how to insert them into the game

You made my day and also depressed me at the very same time, haha.

[jakobtawhoe]

[quote=“utunnels, post:85, topic:197”]https://www.dropbox.com/s/r35pnekirwxy9m9/Cataclysm-DDA-sdltile.7z

I updated with my previous idea. Now every itype has an unique iid that can be used to map tile. Gfxwindow.cpp now uses a vector instead of map to store tileset infomation so it should be faster on rendering.

There isn’t much to do now I guess. Maybe a pixel artist will be wanted if this goes offical someday, because most of the pictures I’m using to test the code are taken from nethack and dwarf fortress.[/quote]

sorry! im a total noob! but id like to test this using he newest DDA build .6, how do I go about installing your tileset support into my base .6 game ??

im willing to create my own art work if you help me so i can get the word out!

i want to know does it support layered items like in THIS tileset?

http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=753.0

any help is appreciated!!

[utunnels]

Well that was a quick hack on top of the display function.
It seems to display normally, but lacks interaction to actual gameplay functions like firing weapons, explosion, looking around, etc

I abandoned the idea since it is one of the goal of the kickstarter project.

[jakobtawhoe]

[quote=“utunnels, post:119, topic:197”]Well that was a quick hack on top of the display function.
It seems to display normally, but lacks interaction to actual gameplay functions like firing weapons, explosion, looking around, etc

I abandoned the idea since it is one of the goal of the kickstarter project.[/quote]

ah so it can only display base entities and nothing else then?

i see. any idea how I get it working in .6? cuz it still helps being able to see buildings and windows vs grass and terrain.

[utunnels]

Maybe I can try. No promise though.

[Ferk]

Did you consider the possibility of using NotEye for the tiled interface?
Looks like a nice project designed to interface with ncuses roguelikes easily …using it might ease things up. It’s used already by DoomRL, Hydra slayer and others.
It also allows sound effects, streaming, customizable keybindings… and it’s GPL.
Also, it seems that Hydra-Slayer has an Android port, and it’s a project based on NotEye, so might be that it could be ported too.

The “3D”-ish First Person Perspective mode might be very cool to try, more immersive for a zombie survival.

I just registered to suggest this …this game looks pretty interesting, just discovered about it a few days ago because of the kickstarter

[p0ss]

Hey there, just came across this project and immediately went through and drew sketches of every enemy type in prep for a tileset.

I realise its difficult to answer before the system is implemented, but my questions are:

Will the system include animations?

What size tiles are we aiming at?

Given the 3D visualisation systems, Is it worth even going straight tiles, or should I create 3D models?

Most importantly, will there be a GUI system, and are there mock ups?

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[vultures]

Ooh, I like the arse on dat queen!