# Odds and Ends prototype

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746
**Category:** The Lab
**Tags:** mod, abandoned-mod
**Created:** [April 21, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746 "2016-04-21T19:34:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/1 "2016-04-21T19:34:00Z")

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When my mod is both complete and ready to download, i’ll put a link to it here.

EDIT: incomplete but somewhat fun  
Repo: [https://github.com/BorkBorkGoesTheCode/Odds-N-Ends-mod-prototype](https://github.com/BorkBorkGoesTheCode/Odds-N-Ends-mod-prototype)

[WIP] Some of the features included in the Odds and Ends mod:

The 7.63x25mm cartridge, which can be loaded into any 7.62x25mm gun.  
2 C96 pistols, one modernized.  
1 silenced rifle  
A pre-cataclysm analog of the Survivor Wetsuit.  
1 Combination IR/Night Vision/Sunglasses/Swim Goggles.  
Several professions, including an embedded photojournalist and a bionic hooker.  
A military theater map that reveals all pre-cataclysm terrain.  
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Releases link: [https://github.com/BorkBorkGoesTheCode/Odds-N-Ends-mod-prototype/releases](https://github.com/BorkBorkGoesTheCode/Odds-N-Ends-mod-prototype/releases)

Still needs a lotta work. Feel free to include anything in your mod.

Have added something close to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.63×25mm\_Mauser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.63%C3%9725mm_Mauser) and the MP 18.

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/2 "2016-04-22T14:28:56Z")

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I plan to make two mods: an Era mod that recreates any period in the history of New England between 1800 and the standard era, and one miscellaneous mod that may grow into a fork.

> **Old mod stuff from my lost mod and plans for my lost mod**
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> [WIP] The following features are included in the Odds and Ends mod:
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> ~~3 new 7.62x25mm cartridge. [One has been mainlined!]~~  
> The 7.63x25mm cartridge, which can be loaded into any 7.62x25mm gun.  
> 2 C96 pistols, one modernized.  
> 1 silenced rifle  
> ~~3-4 flintlock cartridges.~~  
> ~~5+ flintlocks, including a preposterous flintlock machine gun I added for fun.~~  
> ~~A mountable Saker cannon.~~  
> A pre-cataclysm analog of the Survivor Wetsuit.  
> 1 Combination IR/Night Vision/Sunglasses/Swim Goggles.  
> Several professions, including a government-trained survivalist with a silenced rifle, a bionic hooker, a modernized ninja, and a photojournalist.  
> A military theater map that reveals all pre-cataclysm terrain.
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> Most of the equipment isn’t historically accurate yet, but running the mod doesn’t produce errors. However, there are still a lot of things to add and balance, especially professions, before I upload the mod.

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### Author: ![Noctifer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/noctifer/32/458_2.png) [@Noctifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctifer)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/3 "2016-04-22T15:30:20Z")

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A bionic hooker? …I have no idea how to interpret that…

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/4 "2016-04-22T20:07:40Z")

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I was adding professions that don’t exist in the main game, or many of the mods I’ve seen, and I thought the idea of a wealthy escort with physical and medical enhancements, gymnastic training, and high speech skill was good. I didn’t and still do not intend any meanness by it. When I release my mod, please tell me if you think my implementation is offensive.

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### Author: ![Noctifer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/noctifer/32/458_2.png) [@Noctifer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Noctifer)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/5 "2016-04-22T22:48:17Z")

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Sure, I don’t belive you mean it as an insult it just stood out in my eyes.

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/6 "2016-04-22T23:16:38Z")

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Thanks for the clarification, Noctifer.

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/7 "2016-05-08T01:45:17Z")

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Where can I find info about musket ballistics? I have looked at Flayderman’s but it doesn’t talk about muzzle velocity, materials, weight, tactics etc…

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### Author: ![Kadian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kadian/32/214_2.png) [@Kadian](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kadian)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/8 "2016-05-08T12:30:20Z")

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> [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](#):
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> Where can I find info about musket ballistics? I have looked at Flayderman’s but it doesn’t talk about muzzle velocity, materials, weight, tactics etc…

I looked around for a while and I found a Paper from the Cranfield University, called “Ballistics of 17 Century Muskets” from one David Miller. I just took a glimpse, but it seems to speak about muzzle velocity, tactics, gunpowder, materials and so on. It’s a PDF, here’s the link, fresh from google:

[Click me!](https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0ahUKEwiVpJiDvMrMAhVBbRQKHQqzDycQFghTMAY&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdspace.lib.cranfield.ac.uk%2Fbitstream%2F1826%2F4605%2F3%2FDavid%2520Miller%2520PhD.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHutBI9WI5o1meyGEqfffbgtZq7fg&sig2=wKLxz0689EemjxXAwBqrjw)

It’s a Thesis for a MSc, so I’d assume it’s fairly accurate.

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### Author: ![Cagone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cagone/32/543_2.png) [@Cagone](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cagone)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/9 "2016-05-08T12:37:07Z")

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That is very ambitious, since you would have to recreate ALL maps, all recipes, all technology and all professions for every era. Can I suggest you to start with a single era, then proceed with the others? Maybe you could start with a “1850 Cataclysm” or a “2050 Cataclysm”, finish it (it will take a long time), then proceed to the next era?

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/10 "2016-05-08T16:57:23Z")

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Thank you for the link Kadian!

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [August 3, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/11 "2017-08-03T23:22:05Z")

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I’ve posted a link to a reconstruction of my test mod in the first post. Harddrive failure destroyed the original, and I’ve lost the will to restore it from memory.

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/12 "2017-08-07T02:54:32Z")

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Removed copypasta

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### Author: ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/13 "2017-08-07T04:33:50Z")

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> [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](#):
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> Removed copypasta

???

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/14 "2017-08-14T01:55:48Z")

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> [@DeWolf](#):
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> [quote=“BorkBorkGoesTheCode, post:12, topic:11746”]Removed copypasta

???[/quote]  
I was recreating my old 7.63x25 IG items using the 7.62x25 cartridges and guns I improved in mainline. I forgot to update the 7.63x25s dispersion to be different from the 7.62x25. I then overcorrected, forgetting that the 7.63 must have dispersion greater than 120 or else it would be more accurate than the 7.62x25. Both problems have been fixed.

I have recent added a High Explosive Incendiary AP .50 BMG cartridge to the mod.

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### Author: ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/15 "2017-08-14T02:05:33Z")

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> [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](#):
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> [quote=“DeWolf, post:13, topic:11746”][quote=“BorkBorkGoesTheCode, post:12, topic:11746”]Removed copypasta

???[/quote]  
I was recreating my old 7.63x25 IG items using the 7.62x25 cartridges and guns I improved in mainline. I forgot to update the 7.63x25s dispersion to be different from the 7.62x25. I then overcorrected, forgetting that the 7.63 must have dispersion greater than 120 or else it would be more accurate than the 7.62x25. Both problems have been fixed.

I have recent added a High Explosive Incendiary AP .50 BMG cartridge to the mod.[/quote]  
Thank you for explaining and huzzah exploding 50s.

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/16 "2018-04-15T17:48:14Z")

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I added a speedloader to the C96.

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/17 "2018-04-28T06:24:13Z")

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Updated the releases page. [https://github.com/BorkBorkGoesTheCode/Odds-N-Ends-mod-prototype/releases](https://github.com/BorkBorkGoesTheCode/Odds-N-Ends-mod-prototype/releases)

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/18 "2018-05-09T23:07:57Z")

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Not sure why, but this mod got blocked by Safe Search.

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### Author: ![darktoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@darktoes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/darktoes)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/19 "2018-05-10T00:35:41Z")

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Maybe the BIonic Hooker?

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### Author: ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746/20 "2018-05-10T02:04:15Z")

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My fork of Modern Weapons Pack is also affected.

[Next page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/odds-and-ends-prototype/11746.md?page=2)
