# Obsolete survior helmets

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [February 2, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653 "2020-02-02T02:35:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![TheKobold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thekobold/32/513_2.png) [@TheKobold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheKobold)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653/1 "2020-02-02T02:35:32Z")

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So I was looking thru the updates to see when some of the mods were set to obsolete, and noticed fire weapons and survivor helmets were made obsolete. Fire weapons I get because they just are goofy and really don’t work in real life, but Why survivor helmets?

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**Author:** ![Valase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valase/32/6972_2.png) [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653/2 "2020-02-02T05:23:49Z")

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Well, they might no longer get maintained or get/got merged into the main game.

Some hours ago, you posted a reply on a topic which discussed that earlier:

> [@Removed Mods Stuff](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/removed-mods-stuff/22632/2):
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> From what I understand the mods being removed are because they no longer have a maintainer and the cost to keeping them updated is higher than the current dev team can spare while trying to add new features and improve the game. Naturally, those mods will not likely make a return unless somebody is willing to dedicate to keeping them updated and functioning.

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653/3 "2020-02-02T07:13:44Z")

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Just read the description in the PR - [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/37524](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/37524)

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**Author:** ![TheKobold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thekobold/32/513_2.png) [@TheKobold](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheKobold)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653/4 "2020-02-02T13:28:30Z")

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No offense but you should read the whole post before replying.

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**Author:** ![Tamior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tamior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tamior)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653/5 "2020-02-03T00:18:14Z")

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It would help if you explained what _exactly_ was removed from main branch.  
Not everyone keeps a log of changes between every next experimental version and the one from a day before.

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**Author:** ![Valase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valase/32/6972_2.png) [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653/6 "2020-02-03T07:23:23Z")

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> [@TheKobold](#):
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> […] read the whole post before replying.

Well, you know, I did read the whole post, that’s why I said that there can be multiple reasons for it to be made obsolete, not just because “it doesn’t work in real life” (spoiler: Zombies also don’t, but they’re still in the game (thankfully) 😉 ).

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**Author:** ![Sanehatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sanehatter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanehatter)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 11:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/obsolete-survior-helmets/22653/7 "2020-02-03T11:39:18Z")

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Isn’t one of the biggest points in survivor stuff to get 100% coverage and environmental protection tho? Survivor helmets could be just a modification on tactical gear to achieve that, without providing any additional damage protection.