# O.C 4011 keeps crashing

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [December 10, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061 "2015-12-10T18:44:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Jarlaxlejr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Jarlaxlejr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jarlaxlejr)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061/1 "2015-12-10T18:44:19Z")

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As the title says, game randomly crashes. It says something to the effect of “a C++ error caused tiles to quit working” or something like that. The only random mod I’m using is Artyom’s Gun Emporium mod and it has never caused any issues.  
Should I just download a newer experimental? The only reason I’m worried is that there is some new features (LOVE the new lighting now that I got used it) and I don’t know if it is something that I’ll continue running into.  
Thanks for all the help.

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**Author:** ![rremyroy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@rremyroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/rremyroy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061/2 "2015-12-11T14:59:21Z")

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[quote=“Jarlaxlejr, post:1, topic:11061”]As the title says, game randomly crashes. It says something to the effect of “a C++ error caused tiles to quit working” or something like that. The only random mod I’m using is Artyom’s Gun Emporium mod and it has never caused any issues.  
Should I just download a newer experimental? The only reason I’m worried is that there is some new features (LOVE the new lighting now that I got used it) and I don’t know if it is something that I’ll continue running into.  
Thanks for all the help.[/quote]

If you find some specific conditions which always triggers the crash, please create an issue about it on [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/new](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/new) . If you have a save file that always crash, it can be helpful to include it in the issue.

One of the first step to resolve issues like this is to reproduce the problem.

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**Author:** ![BeerBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061/3 "2015-12-13T21:53:22Z")

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Do you play with a lot of zombies?  
Would you suspect that the crashes relate to nearby buildings’ roofs collapsing due to zombies wrecking them?  
Because I do. I’m (still) on 0.C-3984, and I gotta say I’ve had more crashes than ever. Always ends with “Visual C++ terminating in an unusual way”.

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**Author:** ![Jarlaxlejr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Jarlaxlejr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jarlaxlejr)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061/4 "2015-12-14T00:32:52Z")

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[quote=“BeerBeer, post:3, topic:11061”]Do you play with a lot of zombies?  
Would you suspect that the crashes relate to nearby buildings’ roofs collapsing due to zombies wrecking them?  
Because I do. I’m (still) on 0.C-3984, and I gotta say I’ve had more crashes than ever. Always ends with “Visual C++ terminating in an unusual way”.[/quote]

^ That’s the error code!  
Also as to your question, no I go with the default settings besides black listing fungals. I don’t know even have z-levels/tall buildings enabled.  
I gave up and deleted it and downloaded a newer experimental. No problems since.

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**Author:** ![BeerBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061/5 "2015-12-14T12:35:35Z")

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Oh, OK. Do you usually use your vehicle as your mobile base? I do, and I keep wondering if all the hundreds/thousands of items I drag through the game world 150mph is the thing that breaks the game engine. It certainly feels like I get more crashes the further the game advances = the more loot I keep piling. Or could it be related to the vehicle size and the number of vehicle parts installed?

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**Author:** ![BeerBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BeerBeer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BeerBeer)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061/6 "2015-12-17T02:52:57Z")

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Anyone still reading this, if you use sounds, try removing them. I’ve been playing like a total of 12 hours without sounds and have not had a single crash since, which is super suspicious at the very least. So, do the reverse thing of installing the sound files.

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**Author:** ![Malkeus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/malkeus/32/12037_2.png) [@Malkeus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malkeus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/o-c-4011-keeps-crashing/11061/7 "2015-12-17T04:04:23Z")

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Have you tried upgrading? There have been a lot of crash bugs fixed since 4011. We are up to 405X now