# NPC throwing guns instead of shoting them

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [September 24, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083 "2021-09-24T10:11:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![anonimoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@anonimoose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anonimoose)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083/1 "2021-09-24T10:11:19Z")

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As title says, if you move outside the range of gun they are wielding currently (even when almost full), they will just throw it. And I think I found answer in this old thread:

> [@I think throwing weapons is kinda flawed](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-think-throwing-weapons-is-kinda-flawed/18275/43):
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> Carry a 1911. Throwing a 1911 does 30 damage. Don’t even need any ammo, throwing it does as much damage as shooting it.

Throwing guns just does more damage then shooting it at such distance.  
So the question of the thread, will there be an NPC rework, or something that prevents this behavior. It’s confusing to see NPC disarming themselves to say the least.  
I probably have to mention that I only saw this behavior with enemy NPC. Version is resent (ish) experimental (title screen says 6882600).

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**Author:** ![Thorngot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/thorngot/32/11083_2.png) [@Thorngot](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Thorngot)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083/2 "2021-09-24T15:50:00Z")

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It would be nice if the NPC Combat Commands menu had a “do not throw” option like it has a “do not use grenades” option. That would solve the throwing-melee-weapon-and-wielding-helmet issue and might solve the gun issue.

Edit: It wouldn’t fix the problem for enemy NPCs, but could be make “squad-based CDDA” more viable.

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**Author:** ![Bio](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bio/32/6690_2.png) [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083/3 "2021-09-24T23:23:32Z")

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say what you will that is a hilarious glitch

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**Author:** ![potato\_guy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/potato_guy/32/11749_2.png) [@potato\_guy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/potato_guy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083/4 "2022-01-18T20:13:04Z")

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lol ikr im laughing at the stupidity of this all

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**Author:** ![Invalid\_Username](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Invalid\_Username](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Invalid_Username)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 7:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083/5 "2022-01-20T07:59:16Z")

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![9mm](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/c/c338d59a5322269e33a981a855fbf43609df6fb7.gif)

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**Author:** ![Lee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/lee/32/11741_2.png) [@Lee](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Lee)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083/6 "2022-01-21T17:20:40Z")

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Was it a Kel-Tec? :3

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**Author:** ![Mogel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mogel/32/10581_2.png) [@Mogel](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mogel)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-throwing-guns-instead-of-shoting-them/27083/7 "2024-02-22T13:00:42Z")

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I have a character npc with a whole duffel bag Feld the with guns and he throw them around like they are boomerangs