# Non Drive Train Engines
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/non-drive-train-engines/13888
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/non-drive-train-engines/13888 "2017-06-20T18:07:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/non-drive-train-engines/13888/21 "2017-06-23T15:26:23Z")
That’s rather complex and adds an unorthodox UI step.
It would be much simpler and more obvious with a separate drivetrain part. Also, separate drivetrain would allow more customization, at the cost of more clutter.
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### Author:  [@tarburst98](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/tarburst98)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/non-drive-train-engines/13888/22 "2017-06-23T16:08:05Z")
pretty sure clutter is inevitable.
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### Author:  [@Miloch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Miloch)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/non-drive-train-engines/13888/23 "2017-06-23T16:34:10Z")
Agree about clutter. Cars are extremely complex vehicles.
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### Author:  [@TooDAMNMuch](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TooDAMNMuch)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/non-drive-train-engines/13888/24 "2017-06-24T19:46:06Z")
there’s a lot of cool ideas that spring to mind thinking of stationary drive trains, rotational energy could be a nice way to kill zombies and other stuff someday.
or conveyor belts and the like even, a cooking area with conveyor belts moving food around.
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