# Newest win32 builds crash on startup

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newest-win32-builds-crash-on-startup/3316
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [October 1, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newest-win32-builds-crash-on-startup/3316 "2013-10-01T19:04:00Z")
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### Author: ![Zaweri\_Runewright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/5e9695/32.png) [@Zaweri\_Runewright](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zaweri_Runewright)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newest-win32-builds-crash-on-startup/3316/1 "2013-10-01T19:04:00Z")

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As the title says, I am experiencing problems with latest win32 builds. No debug messages or anything, the game window just stays there for 1-3 secs, and then it crashes.

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### Author: ![yobbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b9e5f3/32.png) [@yobbo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/yobbo)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newest-win32-builds-crash-on-startup/3316/2 "2013-10-02T02:30:00Z")

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There was a problem affecting the debug messaging system itself. Hopefully fixed by [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/3394](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/3394).