# Newer tilesets don't fallback to ascii

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [September 7, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282 "2014-09-07T01:30:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![pouar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/pouar/32/1144_2.png) [@pouar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/pouar)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282/1 "2014-09-07T01:30:15Z")

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One problem I encountered is that newer tilesets such as Coleen’s don’t fallback to ascii, but instead a default tile. This is the entire reason why I’m still using RetroDays. Does anyone know how to fix this?

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**Author:** ![Robik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/robik/32/1349_2.png) [@Robik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Robik)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282/2 "2014-09-07T03:06:15Z")

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> [@pouar](#):
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> One problem I encountered is that newer tilesets such as Coleen’s don’t fallback to ascii, but instead a default tile. This is the entire reason why I’m still using RetroDays. Does anyone know how to fix this?

It was extra effort on Antistar side to made his tileset fallback to ascii. I don’t know details, but tileset author needs to add tiles for ascii characters at the end of their .png file.

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**Author:** ![Mshock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mshock/32/1346_2.png) [@Mshock](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mshock)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282/3 "2014-09-07T16:06:58Z")

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It’s actually pretty easy to do, I think, but I need to find 32x32 ascii tileset that falls under CC-BY-SA.

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**Author:** ![Midaychi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Midaychi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Midaychi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282/4 "2014-09-07T18:56:18Z")

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> [@Mshock](#):
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> It’s actually pretty easy to do, I think, but I need to find 32x32 ascii tileset that falls under CC-BY-SA.

A quick google search finds this website, [Search Font Library](http://openfontlibrary.org/en/search?license=CC-BY-SA)

And there’s a few CC-BY-SA 3.0 and 4.0 fonts here

> **[cc-by-sa (search results) · 1001 Fonts](https://www.1001fonts.com/search.html?search=cc-by-sa&x=5&y=13)**
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> 5246 free fonts in 2554 families · Free licenses for commercial use · Direct font downloads · Mac · Windows · Linux

and all the fonts on [Browse Fonts - Google Fonts](https://www.google.com/fonts) are either apache or SIL open, which are at least compatable with GPL.

Licenses are hard, but you could always steal the ascii from retrodays. Whatever font it’s using is either compatible, or awkwardly not.

Unfortunately creative commons licensing seems pretty draconian in terms of official compatibility with other licenses.

this filter might help. Just change the stuff after site to a font library site.  
[https://www.google.com/search?q=site:fontspace.com+cc-by-sa](https://www.google.com/search?q=site:fontspace.com+cc-by-sa)  
[https://www.google.com/search?q=site:dafont.com+cc-by-sa](https://www.google.com/search?q=site:dafont.com+cc-by-sa)

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**Author:** ![Mshock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mshock/32/1346_2.png) [@Mshock](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mshock)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282/5 "2014-09-07T20:47:43Z")

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It’s probably a wrong place to ask, but are Dwarf Fortress tiles, comunity askii tiles free for distribution?

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newer-tilesets-dont-fallback-to-ascii/7282/6 "2014-09-08T00:03:59Z")

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> [@Mshock](#):
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> It’s probably a wrong place to ask, but are Dwarf Fortress tiles, comunity askii tiles free for distribution?

Uh, yeah, you’d have to ask at Bay12.

And more generally, CC-BY-SA means that you’re free to grab from other DDA tilesets. Normally that’d be questionable form as you’re copying someone’s art, but I would hold that the ASCII fallback symbols are useful infrastructure, not creative work.