# \[NEWBIE\] Experience trying to retrieve dropped quarterstaff

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**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [March 29, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newbie-experience-trying-to-retrieve-dropped-quarterstaff/26157 "2021-03-29T00:58:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![robotic\_gamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6de8d8/32.png) [@robotic\_gamer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/robotic_gamer)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/newbie-experience-trying-to-retrieve-dropped-quarterstaff/26157/4 "2021-03-29T04:43:24Z")

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the problem is that wood chisels need survival 4 which tends to be achieved noticeably latter in the game then when you want normally want a shovel (fortifying by digging pits for example). This leads to an awkward period where progress is hindered by the lack of a shovel. One solution I implemented in a mod ([simple additions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/simple-additions-mod/25892/9)) gives a recipe that has you carving a wooden shovel out of a log (similar to carving wooden clogs).

edit: forgot an “a”  
edit: specifically my recipe requires a fabrication of 3, wood sawing of 1, and a cutting tool

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