# Needful things (simple additions to improve the game)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [March 23, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570 "2014-03-23T22:36:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jokermatt999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9bcb4/32.png) [@jokermatt999](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jokermatt999)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1161 "2014-12-27T19:01:25Z")

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Utilizing existing carpet terrain is a very good idea. I’ll look into this soon.

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**Author:** ![Alasnuyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Alasnuyo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Alasnuyo)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1162 "2014-12-27T21:30:51Z")

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CBM: Hydraulic Muscles equivalent for DEX, INT and PER.

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**Author:** ![TheMightyHercules](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/themightyhercules/32/340_2.png) [@TheMightyHercules](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheMightyHercules)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1163 "2014-12-27T22:15:53Z")

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Able to hold your breath for X Amount of Time…

If you hold your breath for too long you’ll collapse to the ground and fall unconscious. (Possibly Die with a small Percentage)

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**Author:** ![Rhodri](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rhodri/32/342_2.png) [@Rhodri](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rhodri)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1164 "2014-12-27T22:19:39Z")

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The “+” layering thing should show environmental protection for clothing.

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**Author:** ![iceball3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c89c15/32.png) [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1165 "2014-12-27T23:48:36Z")

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[quote=“KA101, post:1153, topic:5570”][quote=“RAM, post:1152, topic:5570”]Fruit and vegetable irradiator.  
Jars of formaldehyde to store corpses in.[/quote]

Food irradiation has been considered and rejected as requiring more energy than available to a survivor. Corpse jar, well, not sure why but wev.[/quote]What about those fancy gigantic solar panel storage battery grids i keep seeing? The minireactors? The Car engines used as dynamos?

> **[Food irradiation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_irradiation)**
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> Food irradiation is the process of exposing foodstuffs to ionizing radiation. Ionizing radiation is energy that can be transmitted without direct contact to the source of the energy (radiation) capable of freeing electrons from their atomic bonds (ionization) in the targeted food. This treatment is used to preserve food, reduce the risk of food borne illness, prevent the spread of invasive pests, and delay or eliminate sprouting or ripening. Irradiated food does not become radioactive. The Irrad...

  
By the look of things, the equipment isn’t big either, as as early as 1968 was it already vehicle mounted.

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**Author:** ![RAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@RAM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RAM)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1166 "2014-12-28T02:23:03Z")

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A way to safely deconstruct a door frame, and fireplaces, and all those constructions that seem to be more or less non-refundable even though they do not appear to be made out of glue…

What if we were willing to skimp on the precautionary measures? I, for one, would be perfectly happy to have my position be easily discernible via an ionisation detector if it meant enjoying a limitless supply of self-illuminating produce…

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**Author:** ![terroroid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@terroroid](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/terroroid)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1167 "2014-12-28T03:47:54Z")

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a random artifact at the lab finale

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**Author:** ![Rhodri](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rhodri/32/342_2.png) [@Rhodri](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rhodri)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1168 "2014-12-28T17:11:06Z")

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All the baseball bat crafting recipes (Nail bat, barbed wire bat) but for aluminum bats.

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**Author:** ![iceball3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c89c15/32.png) [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1169 "2014-12-28T19:25:37Z")

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[quote=“Rhodri, post:1168, topic:5570”]All the baseball bat crafting recipes (Nail bat, barbed wire bat) but for aluminum bats.[/quote]i have a feeling that nail bat wouldn’t work spectacularly well, but maybe i’m wrong.

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**Author:** ![CosmicKobal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@CosmicKobal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CosmicKobal)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1170 "2014-12-28T19:57:18Z")

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A small water tank that you can put on a bicycle. uses a tiny/small metal tank.

A small portable water filter that uses a rag, 1 or 2 charcoal, a plastic bottle and has 20 charges. once it’s been used up, it must be dissasembled. you get your bottle and rag back. You would use this item to purify water wherever you are without batteries and water purifier or a fire and a pot.

If you leave a glass jar full of water out in the sun for a couple days, the water becomes purified through the UV method.

some kind of craftable archery target requiring 4 two-by-fours or heavy sticks, a long rope and either a marker of some kind or a spray paint. It would have a finite amount of health and can only take so many hits before it’s totally destroyed. 2000 hits from darts/pebbles, 500 hits from arrows/bolts, etc. it would require the construction skill to make.

Incendiary/acid/explosive/smoke bombs sealed inside glass vials/spheres. you would make these when other resources are scarce.

Spray can bomb. requires a lighter, a spray can… maybe other materials.

that’s all for now

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**Author:** ![MormonPartyboat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@MormonPartyboat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/MormonPartyboat)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1171 "2014-12-28T20:40:11Z")

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Ikea-esque furniture boxes in furniture/gardening supply stores. Disassemble into all the components for specific constructions.

A less simple idea would be to have an option similar to deconstruction for certain bits of furniture that would convert the furniture into a movable item. That way instead of disassembling a chair and rebuilding it elsewhere you could just pick it up and move it.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1172 "2014-12-28T21:55:31Z")

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[quote=“MormonPartyboat, post:1171, topic:5570”]Ikea-esque furniture boxes in furniture/gardening supply stores. Disassemble into all the components for specific constructions.

A less simple idea would be to have an option similar to deconstruction for certain bits of furniture that would convert the furniture into a movable item. That way instead of disassembling a chair and rebuilding it elsewhere you could just pick it up and move it.[/quote]

Someone PRs the flat-pack furniture, I’ll merge it.

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**Author:** ![dovla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@dovla](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dovla)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1173 "2014-12-28T23:16:56Z")

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Some way to gather and melt snow. I started a game with 90-day season and am dying of thirst in the spring even though I have two leather funnels set up outside the shelter. It’s pretty annoying.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1174 "2014-12-28T23:21:06Z")

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> [@dovla](#):
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> Some way to gather and melt snow. I started a game with 90-day season and am dying of thirst in the spring even though I have two leather funnels set up outside the shelter. It’s pretty annoying.

Not “simple” but would be appreciated. (Needs snowy weather to generate snow fields on the ground, which then can be harvested for snowballs, etc and then melted, used as construction/crafting material, etc.)

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**Author:** ![Okiemurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@Okiemurse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Okiemurse)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1175 "2014-12-29T00:15:19Z")

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Does “Snowing” not fill funnels like “Raining” does?

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 12:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1176 "2014-12-29T00:35:42Z")

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> [@Okiemurse](#):
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> Does “Snowing” not fill funnels like “Raining” does?

Uh, no, nor should it IME. (I live in Pennsylvania, USA, not too far from New England, and frequently handle snow removal.) Snow would fill a funnel itself, in the “clog” sense, rather than flowing into the container.

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**Author:** ![Okiemurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@Okiemurse](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Okiemurse)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1177 "2014-12-29T01:47:05Z")

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Oh. I live in the south, no idea what snow does.

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**Author:** ![RAM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@RAM](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/RAM)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1178 "2014-12-29T02:28:45Z")

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I would have thought that you could probably survive on a dozen or so funnels’ worth of snow a day…

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1179 "2014-12-29T02:44:00Z")

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> [@KA101](#):
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> Snow would fill a funnel itself, in the “clog” sense, rather than flowing into the container.

Metal sheet + 5 copper wires + 20 batteries = heated funnel

You might find one at a meteorological station, found at radio stations, airports, schools (are there university campuses yet?), and military outposts.

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**Author:** ![Robert\_Boettcher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/robert_boettcher/32/407_2.png) [@Robert\_Boettcher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Robert_Boettcher)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/1180 "2014-12-29T02:53:02Z")

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When re(f)illing my car (pressing f when examining it), I usually do that to dump the gasoline I hosed from other vehicles into my tank (only source of fuel as gas stations have fuel only dumped on ground next to pump).

however i never keep count of how many vessels o had filled with gas. however i want them empty to fill with more gas. so i keep hitting (f) and, since I have batteries in my inventory, inevitably start charging ul the cars battery with them.

that is unintended, i want those batteries for welding not feed an already running car battery. also while i need lemons and copper to make batteries i cant get them back once fed to vehicle.

hence can there be a prompt when switching from re(f)uellinh car to recharging it. (“Batteries in your inventory will be used up,do you really want to recharge cars battery?”)

also i would like to be able to burn cob webd with a lighter. ever seen what happens to spider den irl if you do that?

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