# Needful things (simple additions to improve the game)

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [March 23, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570 "2014-03-23T22:36:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ShadowDragon8685](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@ShadowDragon8685](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ShadowDragon8685)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3881 "2017-12-10T18:55:38Z")

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Here’s a needful thing: Constructible storage with a volume greater than 1,000 which does not block Line of Effect and thus, allows you to use craft ingredients behind it. Something like a big old floor locker, something built as terrain that can’t be moved.

That, or allow you to define an area as your crafting zone and use everything within it regardless of LoS/LoE, but that sounds very nontrivial and potentially exploitable compared to floor lockers.

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**Author:** ![druidniam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/druidniam/32/1368_2.png) [@druidniam](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/druidniam)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 9:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3882 "2017-12-11T09:44:36Z")

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> [@Aluminumfoil](#):
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> Human beings are capable of touching their own bodies with their hands. Human bodies are warm. When hands are empty, they should never be cold.

My hands would like a word with your logic.

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**Author:** ![\_k1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/_k1/32/1335_2.png) [@\_k1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/_k1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3883 "2017-12-11T09:49:40Z")

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The beast-mouthed mutants should be able to hold the hands in their large mouth for warmth.

edit: and melee zombies with elbows.

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**Author:** ![Osman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/osman/32/1405_2.png) [@Osman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Osman)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3884 "2017-12-11T17:47:19Z")

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Allow the player to heat up food using a nearby fire (if this isnt already possible…?)

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**Author:** ![Sneaky\_Potato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sneaky_potato/32/6599_2.png) [@Sneaky\_Potato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sneaky_Potato)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3885 "2017-12-11T17:58:33Z")

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what effect has hot food in the player?

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**Author:** ![Osman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/osman/32/1405_2.png) [@Osman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Osman)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3886 "2017-12-11T18:01:40Z")

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Hot food gives a +5 morale buff that stacks

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**Author:** ![ShadowDragon8685](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@ShadowDragon8685](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ShadowDragon8685)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3887 "2017-12-11T18:20:00Z")

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You can, you just need to [A]ctivate a frying pan or similar first.

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**Author:** ![Osman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/osman/32/1405_2.png) [@Osman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Osman)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3888 "2017-12-11T18:35:58Z")

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Really? Because using the military mess kit to heat up food while near a fire still uses a charge

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3889 "2017-12-11T18:43:16Z")

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It’s a battery powered tool. If it doesn’t use battery it will use fire.

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**Author:** ![ShadowDragon8685](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@ShadowDragon8685](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ShadowDragon8685)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3890 "2017-12-11T18:57:32Z")

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Yeah, because you’re not using a frying pan, you’re using the military mess kit. Use a frying pan, you can find them in any house or restaurant.

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**Author:** ![Sneaky\_Potato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sneaky_potato/32/6599_2.png) [@Sneaky\_Potato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sneaky_Potato)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3891 "2017-12-11T19:46:44Z")

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We need more homemade/pneumatic dakka. bolt driver and pneumatic assault gun aren’t enough.

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**Author:** ![psyxypher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/psyxypher/32/11778_2.png) [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3892 "2017-12-11T19:58:11Z")

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> [@Sneaky\_Potato](#):
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> We need more homemade/pneumatic dakka. bolt driver and pneumatic assault gun aren’t enough.

And better Coilguns. The Coilgun as is sucks right now because the ammunition does pitiful damage. I’m very sure it’d be a simple matter to alter such a weapon to fire bearings or homemade slugs of metal designed for use in one.

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**Author:** ![Sneaky\_Potato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sneaky_potato/32/6599_2.png) [@Sneaky\_Potato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sneaky_Potato)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3893 "2017-12-11T20:30:09Z")

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> [@psyxypher](#):
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> And better Coilguns. The Coilgun as is sucks right now because the ammunition does pitiful damage. I’m very sure it’d be a simple matter to alter such a weapon to fire bearings or homemade slugs of metal designed for use in one.

They succ with nails, but with flechettes it is ok, the bad thing is that the damn equipement required to do flechettes is pretty expensive.

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**Author:** ![psyxypher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/psyxypher/32/11778_2.png) [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3894 "2017-12-11T20:53:22Z")

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> [@Sneaky\_Potato](#):
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> They succ with nails, but with flechettes it is ok, the bad thing is that the damn equipement required to do flechettes is pretty expensive.

[looks this up]  
[checks the crafting requirements]  
[Nail Rifle compatible]  
OH! So THIS is why people praise the Nail Rifle. Everything makes sense, now.

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**Author:** ![Sneaky\_Potato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/sneaky_potato/32/6599_2.png) [@Sneaky\_Potato](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sneaky_Potato)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3895 "2017-12-11T20:53:53Z")

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The more you know…

EDIT: i forgot to ask, can we get chakrams?

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**Author:** ![druidniam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/druidniam/32/1368_2.png) [@druidniam](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/druidniam)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3896 "2017-12-12T13:23:31Z")

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The problem with coil guns is for any damage to be significant you’d need what ammounts to a small nuclear power stations worth of instantanious charge. Talking in the 450kV range or higher for an iron nail at 10 meters. Assuming the sudden high temp ionizing plasma discharge doesn’t melt it in flight.

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**Author:** ![Pakislav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@Pakislav](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Pakislav)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3897 "2017-12-12T13:49:04Z")

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Same goes for CBMs and power armor.

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3898 "2017-12-12T14:55:13Z")

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Homemade plasma gun?

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**Author:** ![druidniam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/druidniam/32/1368_2.png) [@druidniam](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/druidniam)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3899 "2017-12-13T00:37:31Z")

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Plasma guns are nothing if you don’t mind a really short range. You just need a 240v input, A stepdown transformer to 12v outputting 60amps, and around 80k PSI of air pressure behind it. You’ll get around a 9inch plasma jet. (and yes, it will burn the fuck out of you and melt tungsten.)

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-simple-additions-to-improve-the-game/5570/3900 "2017-12-13T04:19:39Z")

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Anti tank guns for your local daredevil.

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