# Needful things part 2

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Tags:** todo\
**Created:** [January 30, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885 "2018-01-30T23:38:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/96 "2018-06-08T17:06:51Z")

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At that point you dont really need the pipe, just wind a thick metal wire around it and you have an excellent fragmentation bomb.

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**Author:** ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/97 "2018-06-16T10:03:17Z")

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Since the knife spear is now fragile, the stone spear from More Survival Tools should be mainlined.

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**Author:** ![Sanehatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sanehatter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanehatter)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/102 "2018-06-18T19:11:32Z")

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We could have some launcher-specialized holsters, or make them fit in a XL one if they’re small enough. As far as I know only a single launcher can be holstered at all, in a back holster (also an option).

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/103 "2018-06-18T21:18:05Z")

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Only one? I figured the pipe and m79 (or whatever) could fit in the back holster.

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**Author:** ![Sanehatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sanehatter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanehatter)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/104 "2018-06-18T22:12:14Z")

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It’s the Milkor MGL. M79 does not fit in holsters and isn’t the pipe launcher a weapon mod?

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/105 "2018-06-18T23:21:12Z")

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1. WOW I would not have thought that thing would fit in a back holster.
2. While you are correct there is also a stand-alone version of it that can be wielded
3. I did not think of this at the time but I am also surprised that the stand-alone m320 (or whatever) grenade launcher cannot fit in it either.

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**Author:** ![Sanehatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sanehatter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanehatter)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/106 "2018-06-18T23:49:06Z")

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Didn’t know about the pipe launcher at all. I guess it’s two holster-able launchers then.

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**Author:** ![darktoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@darktoes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/darktoes)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/107 "2018-06-19T01:46:10Z")

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You do have shoulder straps, which are basically the same thing.

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**Author:** ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/108 "2018-06-23T13:26:57Z")

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While looking up the nomad suit, I found @Chiko’s Extended Cataclysm mod

> [@Extended Cataclysm v1.0a](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/extended-cataclysm-v1-0a/5330):
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> This mod adds new items, recipes, construction options, professions buildings and enemies. Most of the recipes allow players to use items that don’t get much uses so you will end up with less stuff lying around. On the other hand, this also makes it so players might end up using resources with non essential recipes if they are not careful. The following list shows all the new items added in this mod: FOOD Wastebread: “Flour is a commodity these days and to deal with that, most survivors re…

I think an updated version of Chiko’s shark feeder profession should be mainlined. Here’s one version linted and updated to use the no\_auto\_equip flag and buffed quite a bit:

```
  {
    "type": "profession",
    "ident": "sharkfeeder",
    "name": "Shark Feeder",
    "description": "You were working in the public aquarium when the world ended. You only survived the initial onslaught because of your shark suit, which is why you are still wearing it.",
    "points": 4,
    "skills": [{ "level": 3, "name": "swimming" }],
    "items": {
      "both": {
        "items": ["wetsuit", "wetsuit_hood", "wetsuit_booties", "wetsuit_gloves", "dive_bag", "bucket", "shark_suit"],
        "entries": [
          { "item": "swim_fins", "custom-flags": ["no_auto_equip"] },
          { "item": "goggles_swim", "custom-flags": ["no_auto_equip"] },
          { "item": "rebreather", "custom-flags": ["no_auto_equip"] }
        ]
      }
    }
  }

```

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/109 "2018-06-23T18:24:58Z")

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Since the only grenade launcher rounds we are allowed to craft are essentially oversized shotshells I would like to see this thing [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbqHx3TLBE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbqHx3TLBE) provided its addition also allows the crafting of at least a reloaded solid slug.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 7:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/110 "2018-06-26T07:16:57Z")

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Split this topic on June 26, 2018, 7:16am UTC

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**Author:** ![monny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/monny/32/4985_2.png) [@monny](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/monny)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/111 "2018-06-26T07:18:16Z")

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It would be good if shocker brutes were slightly hidden behind evolution. I wouldn’t mind if they appeared on day 3 or so, but day 1 can make it hard to survive.

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/112 "2018-06-26T14:28:20Z")

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I would say that as well but perhaps also add a static zombie that is essentially its first stage, doesn’t have the lighting attack and might be slightly stronger while having the zapback ability.

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/114 "2018-06-27T04:29:00Z")

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The ability to throw an item from a holster rather than having to wield then throw or throwing the container itself.

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**Author:** ![DeWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@DeWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DeWolf)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/115 "2018-06-28T15:25:28Z")

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Is the superglue/duct tape/long string used to craft grenades supposed to be the fuse material or is it just for binding?

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/116 "2018-07-03T17:47:43Z")

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Split this topic on July 3, 2018, 5:47pm UTC

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/117 "2018-07-03T17:45:50Z")

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Split this topic on July 3, 2018, 5:45pm UTC

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**Author:** ![Unentokku](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/unentokku/32/2637_2.png) [@Unentokku](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Unentokku)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/121 "2018-07-02T21:52:42Z")

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Being able to use blanket to make a makeshift sling would be nice. It took me a bit to realize that the blanket I had didn’t count as a sheet for it.

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**Author:** ![redxlaser15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/redxlaser15/32/1573_2.png) [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/122 "2018-07-03T14:19:10Z")

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–I feel like blankets could easily count as sheets for many different recipes in the game. Of course, the game doesn’t properly describe what kind of blanket it is (For example, thin, thick, soft, fuzzy), and certain blankets wouldn’t fit certain things.  
–I assume a really thick blanket wouldn’t make a very good sling, whereas a thin, light one would work much better.

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**Author:** ![mlangsdorf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mlangsdorf/32/2462_2.png) [@mlangsdorf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mlangsdorf)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 2:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/needful-things-part-2/14885/123 "2018-07-03T14:38:57Z")

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You should also be able to make makeshift slings or swag bags from untanned hides and pelts. Kill a moose, butcher it, pile the meaty bits on the hide, and carry the mess of stuff somewhere else for further processing.

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