# Naginata discrepancy

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/naginata-discrepancy/12594>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [September 27, 2016, 9:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/naginata-discrepancy/12594 "2016-09-27T09:16:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/naginata-discrepancy/12594/1 "2016-09-27T09:16:03Z")

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The naginata and survivor naginata have wildly differing Techniques, with the cheaper, low-grade version for some reason having a far more effective array of attacks.

The survivor naginata has Impaling Strike, Rapid Strike, Block and Wide Strike, whereas the properly smithed naginata only has Parry.

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**Author:** ![jcd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/jcd/32/338_2.png) [@jcd](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jcd)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 11:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/naginata-discrepancy/12594/2 "2016-09-27T11:35:14Z")

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I has never bothered me, but now that i look at the recipes and descriptions [here](http://cdda-trunk.estilofusion.com/search?q=naginata), i think you are correct.

Stats are plausible (the smithed naginata larger, slower, much more damaging),  
smithed naginata has DURABLE\_MELEE while the survivor variety has not (again sounds right),  
but the survivor variety seems a bit overbuffed in techniques

I think that the smithed variety could use wide strike and impaling strike, while the survivor variety should lose block for parry, and maybe also lose wide strike (it is shorter and faster, has to have lower reach)

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**Author:** ![Sheb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@Sheb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sheb)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 11:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/naginata-discrepancy/12594/3 "2016-09-27T11:59:20Z")

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What about rapid strike? A naginata doesn’t sound light.

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**Author:** ![Xfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e95f7d/32.png) [@Xfin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Xfin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/naginata-discrepancy/12594/4 "2016-09-28T17:12:30Z")

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The survivor naginata recipe makes it sound more like a halberd then a naginata…

and as the naginata lacks stabbing and spear flags, it probably shouldn’t have impaling strike;