Mutation category expansion

Muaddib · 2015-01-13T14:18:26.000Z

Pthalocy:

[quote=“Logrin, post:454, topic:3755”][…] Misophonia - The hatred of sound. Any time the player hears a sound IG there’s a chance that it will trigger negative morale. […]

I find this interesting given I have similar irl. I’d make all noises over a certain number threshold cause a morale penalty, and maybe an extra little accumulation if the noise level is maintained over consecutive turns. Dynamite bad, but long bouts of continued shooting worse. Long enough and the additional penalty would cap, diminish, and would not be re-triggered until the sounds stopped long enough for the initial morale-hit to wear off. Would reflect being temporarily accustomed to the noise but still disliking it.[/quote]

Wouldn’t dynamite be great?

Sure, you’ll have a lot of noise annoying you, but following the explosion the world will go perfectly silent for a while.

The Deaf debuff should give a morale bonus. Hahahahahah.

iceball3 · 2015-01-13T14:37:57.000Z

You COULD just wear earplugs intead.

Pthalocy · 2015-01-13T17:26:02.000Z

If I was playing with dynamite, yes, earphones or plugs. My dumb baby of a survivor would just defend his ear protection like a lifeline. Someone else using it and I don’t see the thing fast enough to get my ear-covers on? Wehhhhhhh!!! Mi-Go’s would make klaxon noises (a lot of their noise list is actually pretty loud) and then I would have the saddest survivor.

But then deafness, yes. I forgot about deafness. It would be deafness with a face though.

EkarusRyndren · 2015-01-13T19:14:48.000Z

Pthalocy:

But then deafness, yes. I forgot about deafness. It would be deafness with a face though.

Sigg’d

Catfoodbob · 2015-01-15T17:19:27.000Z

Wouldn’t being deafend inflict a dodging penalty though, it does throw off your balence

Logrin · 2015-01-15T18:53:08.000Z

Well, I’d suggest that heat stroke and frost bite were much more troublesome with this mutation: Not being able to tell how hot or cold you are.

Also, sweaty. You’re always sweating!

Herd Instincts - Your morale plummets without companionship!

Stretop · 2015-01-15T18:57:40.000Z

Bestial gallop - post-threshold mutation for animal-like mutcats (beast, lizard, cattle, chimera etc). Improves dodge and speed of character if his hands are not wielding anything.

Closet_Pankin · 2015-01-15T19:02:59.000Z

KA101:

[quote=“Logrin, post:464, topic:3755”]I thought raptors had toe talons…wasn’t that in Jurassic Park?

snip[/quote]

Why not make it that with a high enough cooking and other relevant skill, you could design tier two mutagens? Discover and develop them yourselves after your character has become familiar with mutagens. I don’t mean the character design them yourselves, but have a wide range of premade ‘hidden’ mutations that your character can design based on the new world, with more specific and ‘exotic’ mutagens such as salamander, wasp, snake, etc.

Closet_Pankin · 2015-01-15T19:08:01.000Z

Also, how do shock zombies do mad zaps? Never understood that.

Stretop · 2015-01-15T19:39:02.000Z

Closet Pankin:

On the topic of mutagen, why wouldn’t zeds work? Or maybe even yourself?

As far as I understand how XE037 work, zeds would not mutate from mutagens - their mutations are controlled directly by XE037 that animates them. And you yourself are not statistically representative. And since mutagens are probability-based - you would need statistically representative set of test-subjects.

Closet_Pankin · 2015-01-15T20:08:47.000Z

Stretop:

[quote=“Closet Pankin”]On the topic of mutagen, why wouldn’t zeds work? Or maybe even yourself?

As far as I understand how XE037 work, zeds would not mutate from mutagens - their mutations are controlled directly by XE037 that animates them. And you yourself are not statistically representative. And since mutagens are probability-based - you would need statistically representative set of test-subjects.[/quote]

Hmm… that’s true, I guess.

TinHeadDays · 2015-01-16T00:44:09.000Z

Well… I for one, welcome our new lizard overlords.

But on the topic of Tier II Mutations, I actually think it’s a good idea.

Partially because I have no morals.
But, Tier II should come with a much, much bigger risk, as instead of the usual response (See Below)
[size=36pt]SUFFER NOT THE TERRIBLE MUTATION[/size]
and just drink Purifier/Febreeze [size=8pt](I suspect it’s bleach.)[/size]
Example of Beast Tier I: Beast Mutagen (Tier I) Beast Serum (Tier I Serum)
Example of Beast Tier II: Beast Stem-Cell Injector (Tier II) Beast Stem-Cell Amplifier (Tier II Serum)

EkarusRyndren · 2015-01-16T05:09:51.000Z

TinHeadDays:

Well… I for one, welcome our new lizard overlords.

I just woke up again. What’d I miss- when’d I get put in charge? …sorta.

Muaddib · 2015-01-16T12:57:04.000Z

Frankly I’d rather have the devs work on improving mutations and CBM’s in general, and mutation trees that logically flow out of CataDDA’s world instead of someone being all crazy about fantasy animal X.

Why put some salamander or wolf mutant tier II mutation tree in the game when there’s not even a CBM/biomech or nether mutation tree?

EkarusRyndren · 2015-01-16T19:18:51.000Z

Muaddib:

Why put some salamander or wolf mutant tier II mutation tree in the game when there’s not even a CBM/biomech or nether mutation tree?

Well, there’s no CBM mutation tree because… …CBMs aren’t biological. You can’t ‘grow’ a CPU. Sure, there’s biological equivalents, but that’s not a bionic, and that’s not how the goo works.

TinHeadDays · 2015-01-16T21:24:52.000Z

The same reason people love Godzilla-He blows shit up.

For example, Have I introduced Bishop Conway Dirvek?
Yeah. Did we also mention he’s in the Lupinius Mutation Tree?
GG.

EkarusRyndren · 2015-01-17T01:04:53.000Z

[quote=“TinHeadDays, post:489, topic:3755”]The same reason people love Godzilla-He blows shit up.

For example, Have I introduced Bishop Conway Dirvek?
Yeah. Did we also mention he’s in the Lupinius Mutation Tree?
GG.[/quote]

What on earth are you talking about?

TinHeadDays · 2015-01-17T01:15:51.000Z

[quote=“EkarusRyndren, post:490, topic:3755”][quote=“TinHeadDays, post:489, topic:3755”]The same reason people love Godzilla-He blows shit up.

For example, Have I introduced Bishop Conway Dirvek?
Yeah. Did we also mention he’s in the Lupinius Mutation Tree?
GG.[/quote]

What on earth are you talking about?[/quote]
I think I shouldn’t be drinking at this hour.
I’m actually slightly buzzed, Right now I’m trying to get one of my voice actors TO DO THEIR JOB.

Closet_Pankin · 2015-01-17T08:52:30.000Z

…So is anyone still interested in adding in MDD?

Flunky · 2015-01-24T21:40:10.000Z

Regarding all the talk of rare earth metals a couple of pages ago:

Keep in mind that while China is the current dominant producer of REEs it’s not like only China has/produces REEs. For example, the Mountain Pass rare earth mine in CA was the dominant producer in earlier decades. As I understand it there were two major reasons it closed:

China flooding the market and driving down prices. In the case of strategic need I doubt this would stop U.S. production (or production in other parts of the world).
The environmental impacts. REE mining can create a lot of horribly toxic and/or radioactive tailings. As in some other parts of current industry, not caring about this is one of the reasons China became so dominant. (China’s getting better about environmental concerns now, but it’s a slow process.) Either way, in the dystopian future of CDDA I doubt environmental concerns would block REE mining.

The Mountain Pass mine I mentioned earlier has been started back up in recent years, one of many projects to try and cash in on current demand. While China does still dominate world production there are other sources-- especially if strategic necessity increases (price matters less) and environmental concerns are either mitigated or ignored.

Bottom line, don’t let concerns about REEs overly influence one’s thinking about a fictional future dystopian US government’s ability to produce hypertechnology.